bwana wrote:
For that kind of $$$'s you could buy a Sony A7 III, FE 200-600 and 1.4x TC and have money left over to chase that wildlife! I can't image the Olympus 150-400 is really worth $7,500!?
bwa
Or buy the A9II and sony 200-600mm ...and absolutely smoke any Oly system.
Heck, you could get a brand new Canon R5 and their 800mm f/11 (equivalent to the Oly in aperture) and again...smoke any Oly camera body.
Statistics are malleable and to the uninitiated...totally believable.
Oly says 300% more orders than lenses.
Yeah, they built a couple of hundred of them...and can then make that statement.
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
billnikon wrote:
Supply and Demand. If the Demand is High and the Supply is low, that is the ideal point of sales position. Good luck.
Looks like I will have two years to save and decide. Otherwise it will be luck of the draw.
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
Canisdirus wrote:
Or buy the A9II and sony 200-600mm ...and absolutely smoke any Oly system.
Heck, you could get a brand new Canon R5 and their 800mm f/11 (equivalent to the Oly in aperture) and again...smoke any Oly camera body.
Statistics are malleable and to the uninitiated...totally believable.
Oly says 300% more orders than lenses.
Yeah, they built a couple of hundred of them...and can then make that statement.
Do you have a Sony 300-800 f4.5 lens, with a X1.25 internal teleconverter, 12.5" long, just under 4" in diameter, 4 pounds, able to shoot handheld at 750-2000 with a X2 teleconverter attached for $7500? Let me know when you do. Maybe in the two years that I will have to wait Sony will bring one out. I wonder if it will be similar to the 35 pound Signa 200-500 f2.8 except for weight - and size and cost.
No matter if the company is Sony, Canon, Nikon, Fuji, Olympus, or Panasonic, when one of them makes a new anything, they do many surveys to estimate the needs / wants of the product. It does them no good to make 1000 widgets, sell only 100, and have the profitability start at 700 widgets. If there were only 100 Olympus lenses made, that is a extremely gross underestimate of 300 lenses in a "declining" market. People want an easily handheld lens than can shoot at 1000 to 2000 angle of view. And I can assure you that all the other manufacturers have taken note of this. Already because of Panasonic and Olympus, the lens sizes, weights, and coverage have changed. Coverage is no longer the only main consideration. Size and weight have to come down and will continue to do so for all formats.
And as far as I am concerned, Olympus absolutely smokes the competition at 2000mm handheld at f11 1/250 second and ISO 3200.
wdross wrote:
Do you have a Sony 300-800 f4.5 lens, with a X1.25 internal teleconverter, 12.5" long, just under 4" in diameter, 4 pounds, able to shoot handheld at 750-2000 with a X2 teleconverter attached for $7500? Let me know when you do. Maybe in the two years that I will have to wait Sony will bring one out. I wonder if it will be similar to the 35 pound Signa 200-500 f2.8 except for weight - and size and cost.
No matter if the company is Sony, Canon, Nikon, Fuji, Olympus, or Panasonic, when one of them makes a new anything, they do many surveys to estimate the needs / wants of the product. It does them no good to make 1000 widgets, sell only 100, and have the profitability start at 700 widgets. If there were only 100 Olympus lenses made, that is a extremely gross underestimate of 300 lenses in a "declining" market. People want an easily handheld lens than can shoot at 1000 to 2000 angle of view. And I can assure you that all the other manufacturers have taken note of this. Already because of Panasonic and Olympus, the lens sizes, weights, and coverage have changed. Coverage is no longer the only main consideration. Size and weight have to come down and will continue to do so for all formats.
And as far as I am concerned, Olympus absolutely smokes the competition at 2000mm handheld at f11 1/250 second and ISO 3200.
Do you have a Sony 300-800 f4.5 lens, with a X1.25... (
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Shooting at 2000mm - lots of atmospheric impediments ! - ISO 3200 on M4/3 ?? ?
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wdross wrote:
Do you have a Sony 300-800 f4.5 lens, with a X1.25 internal teleconverter, 12.5" long, just under 4" in diameter, 4 pounds, able to shoot handheld at 750-2000 with a X2 teleconverter attached for $7500? Let me know when you do. Maybe in the two years that I will have to wait Sony will bring one out. I wonder if it will be similar to the 35 pound Signa 200-500 f2.8 except for weight - and size and cost.
No matter if the company is Sony, Canon, Nikon, Fuji, Olympus, or Panasonic, when one of them makes a new anything, they do many surveys to estimate the needs / wants of the product. It does them no good to make 1000 widgets, sell only 100, and have the profitability start at 700 widgets. If there were only 100 Olympus lenses made, that is a extremely gross underestimate of 300 lenses in a "declining" market. People want an easily handheld lens than can shoot at 1000 to 2000 angle of view. And I can assure you that all the other manufacturers have taken note of this. Already because of Panasonic and Olympus, the lens sizes, weights, and coverage have changed. Coverage is no longer the only main consideration. Size and weight have to come down and will continue to do so for all formats.
And as far as I am concerned, Olympus absolutely smokes the competition at 2000mm handheld at f11 1/250 second and ISO 3200.
Do you have a Sony 300-800 f4.5 lens, with a X1.25... (
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After you get one - and the honeymoon is over - give us a report along with images ! BIG images ....
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Why would anyone buy that lens when there are perfectly good 70-300s available at a fraction of the price? Harry
hrblaine wrote:
Why would anyone buy that lens when there are perfectly good 70-300s available at a fraction of the price? Harry
Because they're 70-300 lenses.
Or did I miss the sarcasm? lol
>And as far as I am concerned, Olympus absolutely smokes the competition at 2000mm handheld at f11 1/250 >second and ISO 3200.
Yeah, I've been dyeing like for-never to try that combo. ROFLMFAO
Harry
Even lighter would be the Nikon D500 plus the Nikon 500 PF (about 3#) and cost about $5K or so.
John Hicks
Loc: Sible Hedinham North Essex England
Seems a long while to wait for a lens, I would not pay up front, you never know Olympus might not be here next year.
The thread crappers are busy today, I see.
wdross wrote:
Do you have a Sony 300-800 f4.5 lens, with a X1.25 internal teleconverter, 12.5" long, just under 4" in diameter, 4 pounds, able to shoot handheld at 750-2000 with a X2 teleconverter attached for $7500? Let me know when you do. Maybe in the two years that I will have to wait Sony will bring one out. I wonder if it will be similar to the 35 pound Signa 200-500 f2.8 except for weight - and size and cost.
No matter if the company is Sony, Canon, Nikon, Fuji, Olympus, or Panasonic, when one of them makes a new anything, they do many surveys to estimate the needs / wants of the product. It does them no good to make 1000 widgets, sell only 100, and have the profitability start at 700 widgets. If there were only 100 Olympus lenses made, that is a extremely gross underestimate of 300 lenses in a "declining" market. People want an easily handheld lens than can shoot at 1000 to 2000 angle of view. And I can assure you that all the other manufacturers have taken note of this. Already because of Panasonic and Olympus, the lens sizes, weights, and coverage have changed. Coverage is no longer the only main consideration. Size and weight have to come down and will continue to do so for all formats.
And as far as I am concerned, Olympus absolutely smokes the competition at 2000mm handheld at f11 1/250 second and ISO 3200.
Do you have a Sony 300-800 f4.5 lens, with a X1.25... (
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2000mm ...lol. Yeah, big demand for that.
Buy a telescope. For $7500, you can buy a doosey! f/8 too!!! lol.
Buy a new system before you buy this boondoggle.
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
Bill_de wrote:
That works until folks get tired of waiting and switch brands.
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Actually, until then, one can can shoot with the 300 f4 along with using the X1.4 and X2 teleconverters. Although fix focal lengths instead of a zoom, this offers 420 f5.6 and 600 f8 (600 f4, 840 f5.6, and 1200 f8 in 35mm angle of view terms). Not quite as easy as the super sharp super zoom in use, but very sharp images for their focal lengths.
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