Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona

If you post process in Lightroom, why? Adobe Camera Raw in Photoshop duplicates almost all the adjustments you can do in Lightroom and has much more powerful tools than ACR can fix. There must be a reason but I don't know what it is.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Are you saying that ACR is more powerful then Lightroom? Lightroom was meant to work with PhotoShop. I haven't used it in a few years but I and most of the people I know that used LR/PS did around 90+ percent of our edits in Lightroom as a front end and then passed the image on to PhotoShop as a backend to finalize any addition processing if needed.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

It is the same thing. ACR in Photoshop is no different than the Develop module in Lightroom.

You may be missing that there are five (?) Lightroom's and lots of "ecosystem" interconnectivity. If that has no value, skip the Lightrooms.

jim quist Loc: Missouri

I can edit all I need in a couple of minutes in Lightroom. I haven't opened photoshop in a long time.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

LR has more powerful tools than ARC alone. LR operates in batch across multiple files as once. If you shoot more than one at a time, these reasons alone are the game changers. The majority of images and the majority of photographers never need what PS can do.

bleirer

My workflow starts and ends in lightroom with a trip to photoshop and back to lightroom sometimes by way of dpp4. Startiing with the import module and then culling and then the library to keeps me organized. For me photoshop does the heavy lifting but I wouldn't want to give up the lightroom library module.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

Lightroom is a single solution parametric editor that allows processing a raw file to a finished end result ready for export. If you can complete your editing in LR without recourse to another application like PS the your raw workflow is 100% non-destructive and non-linearly re-editable.

If you need the additional editing features in PS then you need them and should use them. But by spreading the edit over two apps and in the case of PS a raster editor you run the risk of losing the 100% non-destructive raw workflow you got in LR.

LR's UI is better than ACR.

LR's database and image management features are not available in PS/Bridge. Bridge is great but it's not LR.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

I started out with the first version of Photoshop, so by the time Lightroom came out, I had already developed my own system of photo organization with folders, and learned to use Photoshop nondestructively. Now I have the subscription, but I've never used Lightroom. I do see that people use Lightroom for the organizational capabilities, because it's much easier to learn than Photoshop, and they don't need the processing capabilities of Photoshop.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

The editing functions in LR = ACR. However, the interface is better organized, which makes it easier and faster to use. You can print proofs right out of LR, and you have the benefit of excellent file management, geotagging, photo book creation, exporting directly to social media, email, etc and a direct connection to plugins and external processors. But I don't understand your statement "Adobe Camera Raw in Photoshop duplicates almost all the adjustments you can do in Lightroom and has much more powerful tools than ACR can fix."

However, lIghtroom is not a complete solution. And regardless of what many believe - incapable of true professional quality image finishing. It comes close, but the best you can do is an excellent proof. Most have never seen a markup from a creative director in an ad agency or a corporate graphics department. See first image below.

Or performed image restoration. See second and third images below.

These are just two examples I have of things that are well beyond the capabilities of parametric raw converters. And there are plenty more. Clearly, there are many capabilities contained in raster image processors that are lacking, by design, in raw converters.

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IDguy Loc: Idaho

Lightroom has much more power than ACR. You have some study to do.

kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy

That's quite a broad generalization. I would say that LR can't do what I need 99% of the time, counting plug-ins I use as a matter of course in PS.

kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy

Not in terms of image processing. The develop module is exactly the same as ACR. It has other functionality, but not in terms of post processing. Arguably ACR is much more powerful, because it can be applied multiple times as a filter in PS, and that is often necessary when doing certain corrections such as removing CA and color fringing.

AZNikon Loc: Mesa, AZ

tcthome Loc: NJ

Are you talking PS or ACR? If your talking PS , I think most people can do 80-95% of what they need in LR faster & easier with acceptable results.

berchman Loc: South Central PA

Photoshop can do more than Lightroom. It is also far less intuitive and much more difficult to learn. Most photographs don't need the powerful tools of Photoshop. They can be more than adequately post processed with Lightroom .