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Jan 26, 2021 10:32:31   #
controversy Loc: Wuhan, China
 
Is it possible to get it SOOC?

Here are two opinions on the subject: what do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S3T-qQFZsA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE4eAXZWoKs

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Jan 26, 2021 10:36:46   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
controversy wrote:
Is it possible to get it SOOC?


The answer is simple, it depends what you want. So the same old arguments apply.

I'll check back on page 10 to see if anything 'new' has been uncovered.



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Jan 26, 2021 10:38:49   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
Yes you can. I do both, some SOOC and more PP. I mainly do the SOOC stuff to test myself and my decades old skills learned from film photography. With digital, and the ability to see results instantly, SOOC is not as difficult to do and improve on as it once was.

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Jan 26, 2021 10:38:56   #
quixdraw Loc: American Free States -- Montana
 
S.O.S!

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Jan 26, 2021 10:40:39   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of Camera like a Real Photographer.

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Jan 26, 2021 10:41:08   #
Ysarex
 
controversy wrote:
Is it possible to get it SOOC?

Here are two competent opinions on the subject: what do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S3T-qQFZsA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE4eAXZWoKs


Yes it's possible. It's also possible to win the lottery -- someone just did.

Competent opinions? Seriously?

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Jan 26, 2021 10:58:19   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Bill_de wrote:
The answer is simple, it depends what you want.--


Exactly! I use them SOOC, even shooting in raw, when I just want a record of how something comes apart or to keep track of how something is coming along. If a picture isn't important, why spend time processing it?

As far as I'm concerned, the most important considerations before clicking the shutter are composition, focus, and exposure. Assuming you have a good subject, if those three things are right, you're almost home.

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Jan 26, 2021 10:58:33   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I know what you mean. Having read and performed the exercises and experiments in his books have ruined my ability to be a real photographer. I have to "fix" every shot I take to make it look close to the scene I was photographing. I need to seriously work on my SOOC skills.
--Bob
CHG_CANON wrote:
If Ansel Adams was the photographer worthy of that name, he'd do a better job Straight Out Of Camera like a Real Photographer.

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Jan 26, 2021 11:10:48   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
Bill_de wrote:
The answer is simple, it depends what you want. So the same old arguments apply.

I'll check back on page 10 to see if anything 'new' has been uncovered.



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Jan 26, 2021 11:12:41   #
controversy Loc: Wuhan, China
 
Ysarex wrote:
Yes it's possible.

Competent opinions? Seriously?


Here's a fun experiment. Using auto-exposure mode with flash turned off in your camera, fill the frame with a solid pure black image (like a black piece of paper) and take a jpg picture. Then, fill the frame with a solid pure white image (like a white piece of paper) and take a jpg picture. Now, compare the two pictures and tell us if one is pure black and the other pure white -- just like what you saw and SOOC.

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Jan 26, 2021 11:15:02   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
controversy wrote:
Is it possible to get it SOOC?

Here are two opinions on the subject: what do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S3T-qQFZsA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE4eAXZWoKs


Probably a thousand threads on this topic here... do a search.

Yes, No, and Maybe are the appropriate answers. It all depends on the situation and what you expect for results.

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Jan 26, 2021 11:15:53   #
Ysarex
 
controversy wrote:
Here's a fun experiment. Using auto-exposure mode with flash turned off in your camera, fill the frame with a solid pure black image (like a black piece of paper) and take a jpg picture. Then, fill the frame with a solid pure white image (like a white piece of paper) and take a jpg picture. Now, compare the two pictures and tell us if one is pure black and the other pure white -- just like what you saw and SOOC.


That's a dumb experiment and unrelated to taking photos SOOC. SOOC doesn't require ignorance of camera meter functioning.

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Jan 26, 2021 11:22:42   #
controversy Loc: Wuhan, China
 
Ysarex wrote:
That's a dumb experiment and unrelated to taking photos SOOC. SOOC doesn't require ignorance of camera meter functioning.


It proves the point that the metering system of any camera has limitations that cannot be "adjusted" out, particularly with respect to contrast and dynamic range. Follow the science...

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Jan 26, 2021 11:25:26   #
Ysarex
 
controversy wrote:
It proves the point that the metering system of any camera has limitations that cannot be "adjusted" out, particularly with respect to contrast and dynamic range. Follow the science...


Metering has nothing to do with contrast and dynamic range. Metering doesn't determine and nor can it alter either. Learn the science.

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Jan 26, 2021 11:29:42   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Not necessarily. One should be aware of how light meters work and the results one is going to get. Here's a thread that covered metering.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-653330-1.html
--Bob
Ysarex wrote:
That's a dumb experiment and unrelated to taking photos SOOC. SOOC doesn't require ignorance of camera meter functioning.

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