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Question for Trump loyalists, have recent events caused you to reassess your support for Trump?
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Jan 14, 2021 10:17:27   #
srt101fan
 
Some prominent Trump supporters have publicly expressed a change in their view of him and his performance as President and leader of the Republican party.

Have any you Attic conservative regulars changed or considered changing your support for Trump? I'm looking for "Yes" / "No" answers with supporting narrative if necessary to clarify your position.

Thank you!

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Jan 14, 2021 10:23:38   #
btbg
 
srt101fan wrote:
Some prominent Trump supporters have publicly expressed a change in their view of him and his performance as President and leader of the Republican party.

Have any you Attic conservative regulars changed or considered changing your support for Trump? I'm looking for "Yes" / "No" answers with supporting narrative if necessary to clarify your position.

Thank you!


I didn't v**e for Trump in 2016. I did in 2020 and after listening to Trump's speech from J****** 6 that is being used to impeach him plus the videos that he has released since then, coupled with the social media ban on many conservatives I would v**e for him again in 2024 in a heartbeat.

It is ridiculous that there is ample evidence that Hillary Clinton broke the law, but nothing happened to her, while Trump runs what is essentially a pep rally and is impeached for that. The Democratic party is currently so corrupt that I would love to see Trump elected again, just to throw it in their faces.

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Jan 14, 2021 11:55:51   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
btbg wrote:
I didn't v**e for Trump in 2016. I did in 2020 and after listening to Trump's speech from J****** 6 that is being used to impeach him plus the videos that he has released since then, coupled with the social media ban on many conservatives I would v**e for him again in 2024 in a heartbeat.

It is ridiculous that there is ample evidence that Hillary Clinton broke the law, but nothing happened to her, while Trump runs what is essentially a pep rally and is impeached for that. The Democratic party is currently so corrupt that I would love to see Trump elected again, just to throw it in their faces.
I didn't v**e for Trump in 2016. I did in 2020 and... (show quote)


Just a note. The Republicans have been investigating Hillary Clinton for more than twenty years and have come up empty. She's either the smartest criminal that ever lived or the Republicans are just full of s**t.

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Jan 14, 2021 12:39:13   #
Triple G
 
Frank T wrote:
Just a note. The Republicans have been investigating Hillary Clinton for more than twenty years and have come up empty. She's either the smartest criminal that ever lived or the Republicans are just full of s**t.


Or, they’re the most incompetent litigators. They had all branches of government so had FBI and DOJ for 2 years and got nothing. Even with 11 hours of grilling, they didn’t even get a hint at being able to launch a perjury charge. I’m looking forward to seeing trump under questioning.

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Jan 14, 2021 15:13:56   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
btbg wrote:
I didn't v**e for Trump in 2016. I did in 2020 and after listening to Trump's speech from J****** 6 that is being used to impeach him plus the videos that he has released since then, coupled with the social media ban on many conservatives I would v**e for him again in 2024 in a heartbeat.

It is ridiculous that there is ample evidence that Hillary Clinton broke the law, but nothing happened to her, while Trump runs what is essentially a pep rally and is impeached for that. The Democratic party is currently so corrupt that I would love to see Trump elected again, just to throw it in their faces.
I didn't v**e for Trump in 2016. I did in 2020 and... (show quote)


lol! Get help.

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Jan 14, 2021 22:30:54   #
btbg
 
Frank T wrote:
Just a note. The Republicans have been investigating Hillary Clinton for more than twenty years and have come up empty. She's either the smartest criminal that ever lived or the Republicans are just full of s**t.


What does the law say about having national secrets on a private server? It says that is illegal. What does the law say about lying to congress? It says that is a crime. What does the law say about deleting public information from phones and servers? It says it is against the law.

There is proof that Hillary did all of those. She also paid for the Steele dossier, which led to the spying on Carter Paige, and ultimately on Trump.

It is crystal clear that she broke the law, and everyone knows it. Just no one who was in authority would prosecute her. IT is all political theater and it is total b.s. If you were intellectually honest you would know that she broke the law. Everyone who bothered to look knows that.

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Jan 15, 2021 00:09:41   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
btbg wrote:
What does the law say about having national secrets on a private server? It says that is illegal. What does the law say about lying to congress? It says that is a crime. What does the law say about deleting public information from phones and servers? It says it is against the law.

There is proof that Hillary did all of those. She also paid for the Steele dossier, which led to the spying on Carter Paige, and ultimately on Trump.

It is crystal clear that she broke the law, and everyone knows it. Just no one who was in authority would prosecute her. IT is all political theater and it is total b.s. If you were intellectually honest you would know that she broke the law. Everyone who bothered to look knows that.
What does the law say about having national secret... (show quote)


Yer such a legal expert. Why has DC not hired you yet? You could clear up so much of this crap!

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Jan 15, 2021 00:38:52   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
btbg wrote:
I didn't v**e for Trump in 2016. I did in 2020 and after listening to Trump's speech from J****** 6 that is being used to impeach him plus the videos that he has released since then, coupled with the social media ban on many conservatives I would v**e for him again in 2024 in a heartbeat.

It is ridiculous that there is ample evidence that Hillary Clinton broke the law, but nothing happened to her, while Trump runs what is essentially a pep rally and is impeached for that. The Democratic party is currently so corrupt that I would love to see Trump elected again, just to throw it in their faces.
I didn't v**e for Trump in 2016. I did in 2020 b ... (show quote)


Seriously, my friend, do you actually believe that Trump was sincere in his coerced videos? The RealDonald is the one who spoke on the podium prior to the storming of the Capitol; TeleprompterDonald is as f**e as they come.

He in fact said he regretted the video that he released late on 6 Jan; it must have been truly hard for him to tell his beloved faithful followers to go home in peace after he told them earlier in the day that he loved them and that they were special.

And you do understand, I hope, that the video from 13 Jan was forced upon him by his legal advisors who told him he would very likely face charges for inciting the i**********n on 6 Jan -- and the violence that is threatened to yet come -- if he did not come out and specifically say he does not condone violence.

In your posts over the past few weeks you have presented somewhat legitimate arguments to justify your personal position on left vs right policies. You have also made a few pleas to investigate fraud in the e******n, despite the findings by courts and the former AG that there was no case to overturn the e******n results. OK, you are not yet convinced, but I don't know what further "investigation and proof" would convince you that the e******n was run about as cleanly and fairly as could be expected; even Republican e******n officials have praised the excellent work of e******n staff and have refuted all claims of rampant and extensive c***ting.

But now you tell us that you are EVEN MORE sold on Trump after the fiasco of the past week -- when even Pence, McConnell and Graham are washing their hands of this guy?

There must be something nasty in your water supply...

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Jan 15, 2021 01:07:20   #
Triple G
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Seriously, my friend, do you actually believe that Trump was sincere in his coerced videos? The RealDonald is the one who spoke on the podium prior to the storming of the Capitol; TeleprompterDonald is as f**e as they come.

He in fact said he regretted the video that he released late on 6 Jan; it must have been truly hard for him to tell his beloved faithful followers to go home in peace after he told them earlier in the day that he loved them and that they were special.

And you do understand, I hope, that the video from 13 Jan was forced upon him by his legal advisors who told him he would very likely face charges for inciting the i**********n on 6 Jan -- and the violence that is threatened to yet come -- if he did not come out and specifically say he does not condone violence.

In your posts over the past few weeks you have presented somewhat legitimate arguments to justify your personal position on left vs right policies. You have also made a few pleas to investigate fraud in the e******n, despite the findings by courts and the former AG that there was no case to overturn the e******n results. OK, you are not yet convinced, but I don't know what further "investigation and proof" would convince you that the e******n was run about as cleanly and fairly as could be expected; even Republican e******n officials have praised the excellent work of e******n staff and have refuted all claims of rampant and extensive c***ting.

But now you tell us that you are EVEN MORE sold on Trump after the fiasco of the past week -- when even Pence, McConnell and Graham are washing their hands of this guy?

There must be something nasty in your water supply...
Seriously, my friend, do you actually believe that... (show quote)


Is the water from de-Nile?

https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/columnist/325025/trumps-five-stages-of-grief/

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Jan 15, 2021 08:08:47   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
mwalsh wrote:
Yer such a legal expert. Why has DC not hired you yet? You could clear up so much of this crap!

Or better yet, become trump's unpaid lawyer for the Senate trial!

Rumor has it that trump will use Jim Jordan to defend him in the Senate, along with Elise Stefanik.

Jordan decided not to sit for any state bar exam.
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/with-real-attorneys-steering-clear-trump-may-have-to-settle-for-rep-jim-jordan-as-impeachment-attorney/

Stefanik graduated from Harvard, but NOT Harvard Law School, she didn't study law.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/533797-harvard-removes-gop-lawmaker-from-advisory-committee-over-e******n-claims

https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/donald-trump-struggles-to-build-legal-team-as-impeachment-trial-nears-121011500011_1.html

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Jan 15, 2021 08:57:17   #
Rose42
 
mwalsh wrote:
Yer such a legal expert. Why has DC not hired you yet? You could clear up so much of this crap!


We are all experts in the attic.

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Jan 15, 2021 10:11:21   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
Rose42 wrote:
We are all experts in the attic.


The knowledge trust in the attic is just astounding!

DC should just make us POTUS!

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Jan 15, 2021 10:21:46   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
btbg wrote:
What does the law say about having national secrets on a private server? It says that is illegal. What does the law say about lying to congress? It says that is a crime. What does the law say about deleting public information from phones and servers? It says it is against the law.

There is proof that Hillary did all of those. She also paid for the Steele dossier, which led to the spying on Carter Paige, and ultimately on Trump.

It is crystal clear that she broke the law, and everyone knows it. Just no one who was in authority would prosecute her. IT is all political theater and it is total b.s. If you were intellectually honest you would know that she broke the law. Everyone who bothered to look knows that.
What does the law say about having national secret... (show quote)


What you have listed are allegations that were never proven, nor did they rise to the level where she could be arrested or indicted, let alone convicted.

BTW - She's not even a player in political circles anymore. Perhaps you should just go back to the basement and play video games with the rest of the nerds.

Do you charge Hillary for living in your head?

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Jan 15, 2021 12:06:49   #
btbg
 
mwalsh wrote:
Yer such a legal expert. Why has DC not hired you yet? You could clear up so much of this crap!


Walsh, do you seriously believe that Hillary did not break the law? Even Comey when he said he wasn't going to pursue an indictment said that she broke the law.

My point isn't whether or not they prosecute her. My point is that Rixpix was saying that Trump must be prosecuted so that we continue to have the rule of law and send a clear message that no one is above the law, but that the left is selective in how they apply the rule of law.

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Jan 15, 2021 12:16:45   #
btbg
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Seriously, my friend, do you actually believe that Trump was sincere in his coerced videos? The RealDonald is the one who spoke on the podium prior to the storming of the Capitol; TeleprompterDonald is as f**e as they come.

He in fact said he regretted the video that he released late on 6 Jan; it must have been truly hard for him to tell his beloved faithful followers to go home in peace after he told them earlier in the day that he loved them and that they were special.

And you do understand, I hope, that the video from 13 Jan was forced upon him by his legal advisors who told him he would very likely face charges for inciting the i**********n on 6 Jan -- and the violence that is threatened to yet come -- if he did not come out and specifically say he does not condone violence.

In your posts over the past few weeks you have presented somewhat legitimate arguments to justify your personal position on left vs right policies. You have also made a few pleas to investigate fraud in the e******n, despite the findings by courts and the former AG that there was no case to overturn the e******n results. OK, you are not yet convinced, but I don't know what further "investigation and proof" would convince you that the e******n was run about as cleanly and fairly as could be expected; even Republican e******n officials have praised the excellent work of e******n staff and have refuted all claims of rampant and extensive c***ting.

But now you tell us that you are EVEN MORE sold on Trump after the fiasco of the past week -- when even Pence, McConnell and Graham are washing their hands of this guy?

There must be something nasty in your water supply...
Seriously, my friend, do you actually believe that... (show quote)


I could care less about his videos. I was talking about his J****** 6 speech. Look at the text of that speech. There is nothing in that text that any court would say was s******n or was exciting a r**t.

I have never called for overturning the e******n. Nor have I been persuaded by Trump. My point is and will always be that the e******n was s****n by the illegal changes in e******n law coupled with the mainstream media lying and saying that the H****r B***n investigation was Russian disinformation until a week after the e******n when they finally admitted that it was true. Those two things regardless of fraud swung the e******n to Biden and both were wrong. That makes the e******n s****n.

There may or may not have been fraud, but there was certainly irregularities and there are a lot of coincidences if there isn't fraud.

I am not more sold on Trump. I still don't like Trump. But, if it causes the progressives that much angst, then yes, absolutely I will support Trump. After watching what the left has done with censorship and with trying to destroy the lives of not just Trump, but other conservatives as well since J****** 6, then I view supporting Trump as the best way to fight those progressives. If you can't understand that, oh well.

You do not believe that the left is trying to strip freedoms from Americans, yet, that is exactly what they have started doing since J****** 6.

You seem to think that all big tech is censoring is violence and Trump, but that isn't true. They are going after every day Americans.

When Kurt Schillings loses his insurance because he supported Trump, then that is just plain wrong. When facebook and twitter erase Elijah Shafer from their roles just because he covered the capitol r**ts, that is just plain wrong. When Apple, Google and Amazon all work together to try to destroy Parler, that is dangerous to all Americans.

So, yes, if that is what it takes to fight the tyranny of the left, then you bet I will support Trump.

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