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Jan 13, 2021 23:15:29   #
steve L Loc: Waterville Valley, New Hampshire
 
So...my first post to ask for opinions from the congregation, so go gently into that good night !!
Believe I should choose/lose one [one, I forgot I had for a bit]
a: Tokina 11-16 Pro DX 2.8
b: Nikkor 12-24 AFS 4.0 G ED
Cameras are D7100, D500, D700 [though, not an issue, i presume]
What do I shoot.....everything..
Thanks to all in advance, appreciate all the information gleaned here !!
Thanks
Steve

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Jan 14, 2021 01:20:57   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
steve L wrote:
So...my first post to ask for opinions from the congregation, so go gently into that good night !!
Believe I should choose/lose one [one, I forgot I had for a bit]
a: Tokina 11-16 Pro DX 2.8
b: Nikkor 12-24 AFS 4.0 G ED
Cameras are D7100, D500, D700 [though, not an issue, i presume]
What do I shoot.....everything..
Thanks to all in advance, appreciate all the information gleaned here !! Thanks Steve]

None of us here can do your thinking for you, but if it were me I would keep the lens I wanted to keep and sell the lens I didn't want to keep.

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Jan 14, 2021 02:22:43   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Way too close to New York City
 
Check into exposureplot. It’s a free program that will show you a histogram of all the focal lengths and apertures you have used. Might be useful to see what you have shot in the past.

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Jan 14, 2021 04:01:00   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Check into exposureplot. It’s a free program that will show you a histogram of all the focal lengths and apertures you have used. Might be useful to see what you have shot in the past.

I'm thinking that if the OP had ever shot anything in the past, he wouldn't be asking the question!

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Jan 14, 2021 05:54:32   #
ClarkJohnson Loc: Fort Myers, FL and Cohasset, MA
 
I had the same issue, too many (3) overlapping wide-angle lenses, including the splendid Tokina 11-16. Solution: I sold all of them and purchased the newer Tokina 11-20.

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Jan 14, 2021 05:56:17   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
steve L wrote:
So...my first post to ask for opinions from the congregation, so go gently into that good night !!
Believe I should choose/lose one [one, I forgot I had for a bit]
a: Tokina 11-16 Pro DX 2.8
b: Nikkor 12-24 AFS 4.0 G ED
Cameras are D7100, D500, D700 [though, not an issue, i presume]
What do I shoot.....everything..
Thanks to all in advance, appreciate all the information gleaned here !!
Thanks
Steve

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I have owned and shot the Nikon 12-24 f4 for years, it is sharp throughout the zoom range. You won't get much for the D700, which is still your only full frame camera, however, the 12-24 is a DX lens and is designed to work off your D7100 and D500.
Again, you will not get much for either the D7100 or the D700, but those are your older camera's. The D500 is still current.
It is really a strange question your asking cause both lenses are wide angle zooms, they can both do landscapes or interiors but neither are really designed as a carry around all purpose lens.
So, my suggestion, loose the Tokina, D7100, and D700 and buy a all purpose lens for your D500 like the very sharp 18-200 VR II DX lens.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=nikon+af-s+dx+nikkor+18-200mm+f%2F3.5-5.6g+ed+vr+II&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=nikon+af-s+dx+nikkor+18-200mm+f%2F3.5-5.6g+ed+vr
If you have money left over and want to shoot wildlife, consider the 200-500 5.6 Nikon lens.
That would give you three lenses that you could shoot almost everything with
12-24, 18-200, and the 200-500 5.6 along with the very nice D500. Now there is an excellent outfit.

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Jan 14, 2021 06:46:30   #
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ClarkJohnson wrote:
I had the same issue, too many (3) overlapping wide-angle lenses, including the splendid Tokina 11-16. Solution: I sold all of them and purchased the newer Tokina 11-20.

WAY !!!

I spoze plan-B could be to sell both and buy nothing.

FWIW, the Tokina is the one crying much more loudly to quit the scene. It is rather compromised just to market that f/2.8 aperture as compared to the Nikkor.

While I am not the OP, and vice versa, I am not speculating. I have three such lenses, 10-18, -22 and -24. All three are slower than f/2.8, and I’ve never wished they were any faster.

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Jan 14, 2021 09:39:23   #
dennis2146 Loc: So California/Colorado/Idaho
 
If It was me I would sell the Tokina and keep the Nikon. It gives you a wider zoom range and though it is an f4 and not 2.8 you can always increase the ISO in a situation where you want to shoot a faster shutter speed. I wonder how often most people use a 2.8 setting on a wide angle lens.

Dennis

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Jan 14, 2021 09:41:36   #
dennis2146 Loc: So California/Colorado/Idaho
 
billnikon wrote:
I have owned and shot the Nikon 12-24 f4 for years, it is sharp throughout the zoom range. You won't get much for the D700, which is still your only full frame camera, however, the 12-24 is a DX lens and is designed to work off your D7100 and D500.
Again, you will not get much for either the D7100 or the D700, but those are your older camera's. The D500 is still current.
It is really a strange question your asking cause both lenses are wide angle zooms, they can both do landscapes or interiors but neither are really designed as a carry around all purpose lens.
So, my suggestion, loose the Tokina, D7100, and D700 and buy a all purpose lens for your D500 like the very sharp 18-200 VR II DX lens.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=nikon+af-s+dx+nikkor+18-200mm+f%2F3.5-5.6g+ed+vr+II&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=nikon+af-s+dx+nikkor+18-200mm+f%2F3.5-5.6g+ed+vr
If you have money left over and want to shoot wildlife, consider the 200-500 5.6 Nikon lens.
That would give you three lenses that you could shoot almost everything with
12-24, 18-200, and the 200-500 5.6 along with the very nice D500. Now there is an excellent outfit.
I have owned and shot the Nikon 12-24 f4 for years... (show quote)


Forgive me but I seem to have missed the part where the OP said he wanted to sell the D700. I know he said he HAD a D700. But does he want to sell it? I thought it was a post about which lens to keep and which to sell.

Dennis

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Jan 14, 2021 09:44:14   #
imagemeister Loc: Stuart, Florida
 
steve L wrote:
So...my first post to ask for opinions from the congregation, so go gently into that good night !!
Believe I should choose/lose one [one, I forgot I had for a bit]
a: Tokina 11-16 Pro DX 2.8
b: Nikkor 12-24 AFS 4.0 G ED
Cameras are D7100, D500, D700 [though, not an issue, i presume]
What do I shoot.....everything..
Thanks to all in advance, appreciate all the information gleaned here !!
Thanks
Steve

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Keeping the greater range of the 12-24 makes sense to me.
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Jan 14, 2021 09:47:17   #
imagemeister Loc: Stuart, Florida
 
dennis2146 wrote:
If It was me I would sell the Tokina and keep the Nikon. It gives you a wider zoom range and though it is an f4 and not 2.8 you can always increase the ISO in a situation where you want to shoot a faster shutter speed. I wonder how often most people use a 2.8 setting on a wide angle lens.

Dennis


The 2.8 can help AF and seeing composition in lower light - even tho not actually shooting at 2.8 ...
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Jan 14, 2021 10:00:16   #
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dennis2146 wrote:
Forgive me but I seem to have missed the part where the OP said he wanted to sell the D700. I know he said he HAD a D700. But does he want to sell it? I thought it was a post about which lens to keep and which to sell.

Dennis


Owning a D700 speaks for preferring the 10-24 over the 11-16. About half of its range is suitable for FX.

I’ve never tried the Tokina but my other 10-XX DX UWA zooms have no useful FX coverage, so I would expect much the same of the Tokina.

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Jan 14, 2021 10:12:34   #
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imagemeister wrote:
The 2.8 can help AF and seeing composition in lower light - even tho not actually shooting at 2.8 ...
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Very true.

And furthermore ......

Before I’d buy an 11-16/2.8 I’d consider whether that 1.5X zoom range is really preferable to an 11mm, or 12mm, f/2.8 prime. The AF is likely to be better with the prime even though the nominal max apertures are marked alike.

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Jan 14, 2021 10:40:39   #
dennis2146 Loc: So California/Colorado/Idaho
 
imagemeister wrote:
The 2.8 can help AF and seeing composition in lower light - even tho not actually shooting at 2.8 ...
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Are you saying then to look at a dark scene, nighttime, dark shade, whatever in 2.8 and then change the aperture to maybe 5.6 or 8 to actually take the photo because the scene is brighter at 2.8? I am not arguing but trying to understand what you are telling us.

Dennis

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Jan 14, 2021 10:41:54   #
dennis2146 Loc: So California/Colorado/Idaho
 
User ID wrote:
Owning a D700 speaks for preferring the 10-24 over the 11-16. About half of its range is suitable for FX.

I’ve never tried the Tokina but my other 10-XX DX UWA zooms have no useful FX coverage, so I would expect much the same of the Tokina.


My point was that it was brought up that the OP could sell the D700 even though he never mentioned it in his original post.

Dennis

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