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Jan 11, 2021 22:31:51   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
robertjerl wrote:
Or an English Professor?




It took me several years after I graduated from college to learn to write clear, simple prose that people would actually read. I had taken a two-year Humanities course that forced us to read dozens of old books with 250-word paragraphs written in flowery, embellished BS. Why use a five cent word when a $20 word will do?

The only place that stuff is relevant is in the halls of higher learning. I'm not knocking it — I learned a lot about many aspects of Western civilization, and would take the course again — but the reading was an insular environment of rarefied air made unbearable by the authors' incessant word farts! 110 pages a night of that will make most people go mad.

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Jan 11, 2021 23:50:30   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
burkphoto wrote:


It took me several years after I graduated from college to learn to write clear, simple prose that people would actually read. I had taken a two-year Humanities course that forced us to read dozens of old books with 250-word paragraphs written in flowery, embellished BS. Why use a five cent word when a $20 word will do?

The only place that stuff is relevant is in the halls of higher learning. I'm not knocking it — I learned a lot about many aspects of Western civilization, and would take the course again — but the reading was an insular environment of rarefied air made unbearable by the authors' incessant word farts! 110 pages a night of that will make most people go mad.
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When I was a kid I found copies of the old McGuffey Readers in a trunk in my Grandparent's farm house attic. I read them (I was 9th grade I think. It may have been when I was younger in 5th grade, both years I spent the summer on the farm.) The one room school for the area only went to 8th grade and both my grandparents attended it. So this would have been an upper grade elementary version of the book. The vocabulary made modern text books look like they are for special needs students. I showed one off at school and one of my teacher's told me I was in a minority being able to read that material without trouble. At Ca. State University Los Angeles I once mentioned them to a couple of professors in a seminar for working teachers and the Dean commented they had graduate students who would have trouble with them and his assistant dean added - I can think of some professors who would have trouble with the vocabulary.

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Jan 12, 2021 09:15:34   #
fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
After she came home from food shopping, my wife told me she was promoting me to "Produce Rotation and Storage Manager." I was thrilled until she said, "It means you bag the vegetables and put them the refrigerator bins."

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Jan 12, 2021 09:39:54   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Now that's funny!!! This guy should write resumes!!

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Jan 12, 2021 10:59:45   #
Abo
 
burkphoto wrote:
Polysyllabic phraseology lives! Is your friend a lawyer?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX45hc0aZt0

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Jan 12, 2021 12:13:18   #
Abo
 
robertjerl wrote:
"The end product of the digestive system of a male bovine."


I suppose that would not be energy to move or growth of new cells.

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Jan 12, 2021 14:33:45   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
robertjerl wrote:
When I was a kid I found copies of the old McGuffey Readers in a trunk in my Grandparent's farm house attic. I read them (I was 9th grade I think. It may have been when I was younger in 5th grade, both years I spent the summer on the farm.) The one room school for the area only went to 8th grade and both my grandparents attended it. So this would have been an upper grade elementary version of the book. The vocabulary made modern text books look like they are for special needs students. I showed one off at school and one of my teacher's told me I was in a minority being able to read that material without trouble. At Ca. State University Los Angeles I once mentioned them to a couple of professors in a seminar for working teachers and the Dean commented they had graduate students who would have trouble with them and his assistant dean added - I can think of some professors who would have trouble with the vocabulary.
When I was a kid I found copies of the old McGuffe... (show quote)


That's not surprising! I remember reading some humanities texts with a modern dictionary, an old English dictionary, a thesaurus, and a note pad in hand, finding and noting new words on most pages. If you didn't read the footnotes, you had no idea what the author was writing about, because there was no equivalent modern context for a lot of the historical circumstances or concepts involved. The language had changed that much over the centuries.

Somehow, I doubt the reading load is as rigorous, or as challenging, in today's equivalent courses. But I'm sure students have to suffer through some of it!

The head of our English department at the time was a big proponent of the concept that, "Clarity rules." He meant that our readers should find our prose accessible at a glance, without need for translation.

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Jan 12, 2021 14:41:02   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Abo wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX45hc0aZt0


Rolling on the floor laughing!

This reminds me of Monty Python.

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Jan 12, 2021 16:10:09   #
Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.
 
FRENCHY wrote:
I called a friend, and I asked him what he was doing. He told me that in these times of confinement he was working on:

"Aquathermic treatment of ceramics, glass, aluminum, and steel in a constrained environment."

I was impressed... To understand, I asked him for clarification.
He told me that in fact:


"He washed the dishes in hot water.... under the supervision of his wife."!


No one believes this none sense! Hogers on here all use dish washers!

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Jan 12, 2021 16:28:10   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Abo wrote:
I suppose that would not be energy to move or growth of new cells.


You are correct, it is a solid waste product.

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Jan 13, 2021 22:04:21   #
RiJoRi Loc: Sandy Ridge, NC
 
Sesquipedalians never eschew obfuscation!

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