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Jan 9, 2021 14:37:25   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Still no clones and Nikon’s on constant backorder. And of course astronomical price.

Finally broke down and got in the queue at Adorama but not a happy camper.

I can now get batteries for my Z6 for less than 1/3 the price. And they are bigger and higher capacity. But I still get to grouse about the xqd card price for it.

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Jan 9, 2021 15:07:13   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
IDguy wrote:
Still no clones and Nikon’s on constant backorder. And of course astronomical price.

Finally broke down and got in the queue at Adorama but not a happy camper.

I can now get batteries for my Z6 for less than 1/3 the price. And they are bigger and higher capacity. But I still get to grouse about the xqd card price for it.


In stock at B&H No que

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Jan 9, 2021 15:09:30   #
Brian S. Loc: Oak Park, MI
 
Look here for the EN-EL15/15A replacement on Amazon

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Jan 9, 2021 21:02:20   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
In stock at B&H No que


When I looked there earlier it said “More on the way”. I ordered from Adorama which said “backordered”.

Still out at B&H.



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Jan 9, 2021 21:02:54   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 


Wrong battery. The Z50 needs the new 25.

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Jan 10, 2021 08:13:33   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
IDguy wrote:
Still no clones and Nikon’s on constant backorder. And of course astronomical price.

Finally broke down and got in the queue at Adorama but not a happy camper.

I can now get batteries for my Z6 for less than 1/3 the price. And they are bigger and higher capacity. But I still get to grouse about the xqd card price for it.


We've considered it and, honestly, we recommend not buying any camera batteries from Amazon—including first-party batteries. The chance that you'll get a bad third-party battery or a counterfeit first-party battery is just too high.

And everyone on this thread should read the following before considering buying a third party battery.
https://www.howtogeek.com/395172/should-you-buy-off-brand-camera-batteries/

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Jan 10, 2021 08:19:10   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
billnikon wrote:
We've considered it and, honestly, we recommend not buying any camera batteries from Amazon—including first-party batteries. The chance that you'll get a bad third-party battery or a counterfeit first-party battery is just too high.

And everyone on this thread should read the following before considering buying a third party battery.
https://www.howtogeek.com/395172/should-you-buy-off-brand-camera-batteries/


Are you aware of any counterfeit batteries sold "by" Amazon?
Of course if people buy from 3rd party sellers it's no better than shopping at eBay.

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Jan 10, 2021 08:29:59   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Bill_de wrote:
Are you aware of any counterfeit batteries sold "by" Amazon?
Of course if people buy from 3rd party sellers it's no better than shopping at eBay.

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Not my statement. I saw many articles warning folks about buying any batteries off Amazon. I felt it was important to inform folks what others are saying.
Nikon has also issued warnings about potential third party battery damage to Nikon camera's.
I have no knowledge about Canon issuing any warnings.
When you spend thousands of dollars on a camera and lenses, why would anyone cut corners on a inexpensive accessory?
On page 39 of my Sony a9 manual is says, "Be sure to use only genuine Sony brand battery packs."

Despite there being a number of reputable companies, there are significantly more fly by night merchants. These will sell batteries with poor manufacturing standards that may swell after sustained use. This can be a major issue if it is in the camera at the time.

Another issue is that camera companies often “fix” battery problems with firmware upgrades. This is sometimes an excuse to lock out third party batteries completely rendering them useless. Batteries that worked fine before the upgrade are not recognised at all after.

One often reported issue is long term battery life. The third party battery may be giving you a similar number of frames as your OEM at the beginning its life may deteriorate much quicker than an original.

Lastly the use of a third party camera battery may invalidate your warranty in certain circumstances.

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Jan 10, 2021 10:40:29   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
I bought many batteries from many places over the years, I've had no trouble with 3rd party or Mfg. prime from Amazon, Ebay, Walmart, Target, Camera shops (B&H/Adorama, etc.)...buy brand names (3rd party) and not the ultra cheap. As for any problems encountereed with cameras/lighting gear, the worst I've seen is slightly lower shot count from some. None of the 3rd party have failed, none have caused issues internal, none have leaked or swollen. Many that I have are a number of years old by now, batteries for Nikon/Canon/Sony/Fuji and other gear that uses camera batteries (lights for one). I cycle them, they get recharged to full prior to use....although I've only a couple that lose any real capacity over time - <10%. One or two lose a bit more over longer periods, but they are marked, so i don't take them when i need all the power for a long shoot, they are OK for around the house.

Another tip - if your older prime or 3rd party won't take a charge, to low for the charger to turn on (so to speak), or even appear dead.... just connect them to a good conventional charger for a few minutes (you need to understand polarity and pin-outs, use a multi-meter if you don't know which pins supply power/ground)... and magic happens!!! The battery is jump started back to useable life, and now your camera charger will recognize and properly re-charge your battery. Notice: Do not leave a battery charging with this setup unattended - nothing bad will happen till it is fully charged and then goes into overcharge... this is a few minute process to bring the battery back to recognizable voltage range for the prime charger.

If you are fearful of trying this with a dead/no voltage/won't take a charge battery, contact me, send it and if I can revive it you will have a working battery, no $$ charge, you just pay the shipping, it only takes a few minutes for me to tell if the battery will be fine again, or if truly dead.....but I have yet to encouner one that could not be resurrected
True statement - I have never thrown away a used camera battery, I have some that are as much as 8-12 years old and still work fine... YMMV

As for counterfeits, Amazon and some others have on occasion had problems with batteries and SD cards...but I think it was mostly the sketchy sellers, not the mainstreamers.

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Jan 10, 2021 11:51:41   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
billnikon wrote:
Not my statement. ...


With no quotes or reference to a third party, it sure looks like your statement.

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Jan 10, 2021 17:06:16   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
I am aware of the camp that will only buy manufacturer labeled batteries. That is their choice.

I know Nikon works to disable clone batteries. My Z6 won’t take my clone batteries that worked fine on my D800.

I have used many clone batteries over many years with no issues and will happily buy one for the Z50 when available. I suspect Nikon’s latest trick has the cloners stumped.

But then Nikon has an obligation to assure the availability of their batteries.

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Jan 10, 2021 17:13:47   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
billnikon wrote:
We've considered it and, honestly, we recommend not buying any camera batteries from Amazon—including first-party batteries. The chance that you'll get a bad third-party battery or a counterfeit first-party battery is just too high.

And everyone on this thread should read the following before considering buying a third party battery.
https://www.howtogeek.com/395172/should-you-buy-off-brand-camera-batteries/


Thanks. Here is a quote from the article: “ Now, I’m not saying all third-party batteries are bad. The odds are that they’ll work just fine—and the odds are even better if you go with a reputable manufacturer—but you do need to be careful, especially with where you buy them from.”

In addition to Amazon’s excellent return policy they enable posting customer reviews. I know some can scam the reviews, but if there are enough diverse reviews you can pretty much count on them. I don’t buy if there are less than a few dozen reviews or more than 5% “1”. Low quality batteries would show up there.

Maybe that is why I never had a problem.

You’ll also find some 1s on manufacturer’s batteries.

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Jan 14, 2021 15:46:33   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Update: just notified still on backorder. Still no clones to be found.

BTW I should have mentioned that Amazon reviews confirm purchase so not easily scamable by the sellers of the product.

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Jan 14, 2021 16:53:44   #
User ID
 
I use about a dozen different lith-ion battery packs, a mix of OEM, Wasabi, and Refuel. All seemed very equal until I finally got a camera advanced enough that it detects non-OEM packs and “complains” via screen message.

I happen to already have all three brands of packs on hand that fit that camera. It complains only about Refuel packs. It’s as happy with Wasabi as with OEM. Kudos to Wasabi.

More kudos for Wasabi. The OEM packs are 1800mwh but the Wasabi are 2600, 40% more.

For yet another “fussy” camera, Wasabi offers two models, original model for the older bodies and a newer model for new “communicative” bodies. Wasabi is very clear about this in their marketing. The newer model costs a reasonable amount more. And so a third reason for kudos to Wasabi. I get all my battery packs from Blue Nook.

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Jan 14, 2021 19:24:25   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
User ID wrote:
I use about a dozen different lith-ion battery packs, a mix of OEM, Wasabi, and Refuel. All seemed very equal until I finally got a camera advanced enough that it detects non-OEM packs and “complains” via screen message.

I happen to already have all three brands of packs on hand that fit that camera. It complains only about Refuel packs. It’s as happy with Wasabi as with OEM. Kudos to Wasabi.

More kudos for Wasabi. The OEM packs are 1800mwh but the Wasabi are 2600, 40% more.

For yet another “fussy” camera, Wasabi offers two models, original model for the older bodies and a newer model for new “communicative” bodies. Wasabi is very clear about this in their marketing. The newer model costs a reasonable amount more. And so a third reason for kudos to Wasabi. I get all my battery packs from Blue Nook.
I use about a dozen different lith-ion battery pa... (show quote)


I had good luck with Wasabi batteries for my DSLRs. The ones for my D800 are the same size as for my Z6 but as you note Nikon has figured out how to reject them. So they went off with my D800. Fortunately I also had a couple of Nikon batteries for it. The Z6 accepts them both but whines about the a version.

Hope they figure out the one for the Z50.

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