pocotoo

Thanks for your response. I'll give Perry's forum a look.

jefflane

The Vello battery grip with a 3rd party battery work fine on my D850 for about $150 total.

mensch Loc: SF Bay Area

I have a D850, a D810 and a Z6. The live view option on the Z6 is great for street photography as is the quiet shutter, and the in-body stabilization on the Z6 is remarkable! It's ability to focus in low light not so much, but my understanding of the II series is that it has been improved significantly. I am selling the 810 and will replace it with the Z7II. The D850 is an excellent camera, will become my backup camera and will be around for a long time.

via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP

I have a D500, a D810 (and D800), and a Z7. The Z cameras do not autofocus fast enough for wildlife shooting. I use the D500 for wildlife and the 810 and Z for non-moving objects, nature and landscape. Read up on the Z7II before you consider it for wildlife. The additional problem when having only a dSLR and a Z camera is that you don't have a good back-up wildlife camera if the dSLR goes out. I'm hoping the D810 works for that, it replaced the D800 (things were going wrong) and I bought it from a friend used so not very expensive. The 800s shoot sooooo slow once you have a 500.

via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP

Quiet...don't tell the people on this forum about the other forum...we want to keep it civil! But this forum can be more entertaining at times...

pocotoo

Convince the rude ones to hold back and there would be no reason to search out other forums.

HardwareGuy

Let's not forget that the 810 was "the very best" not long ago. Sounds like a case of GAS. I get it, I suffer from it too.

Bill_de Loc: US

I have a D850 and a Z6. Both can take great pictures if I do my share. I like the feel of the D850 with the vertical grip.

For the OP, handle the Z7ii and the D850 and see which feels better. That's the one that will more often give you the best result. IMHO

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ChristianHJensen

Wholy c..... - What are you smoking? Your post is almost impossible to decipher. Are you on crack?

baron_silverton Loc: Los Angeles, CA

For landscape, rivers and people go with the Z7ii. It has the same sensor as the D850 so image quality is virtually identical - probably a little better at high ISO or in low light due to the expeed 6 processor whereas the D850 utilized the expeed 5 - but this difference will be negligible.

The only real advantage that the D850 has over the Z7ii is fast AF subject tracking.

For portraiture you will do better with the Z7ii as you have focus points from edge to edge and the eye/face detect AF is now very good on the Z7ii. All your older Nikon lenses are usable with the FTZ adaptor. In fact, some lenses are better adapted to the Z system then they were native on the DSLR. I find this to be the case with my 105 1.4 and my 58 1.4 - they focus just as fast - but there are focusing points all over the frame, and they now enjoy 3 axis image stabilization even though they are not stabilized lenses due to the Z body having IBIS. They are actually much more fun to shoot with than they were on my D750 and more versatile as well.

The EVF is a much better in so many ways. For example, viewing your shots in the bright sun when you are outside shooting landscape is so much nicer than trying to see them on the back screen of the camera in the glaring sun. This alone is reason enough to switch - using a DSLR now seems archaic to me after switching about a year ago to the Z system - when I did go back and use my D750 (before I sold it a couple months ago) I really missed the EVF and not having edge to edge focusing. I still loved the D750, but found that I would always reach for my Z6 when going on a shoot.

In short, there is really nothing that the D850 does for the type of photography that you are interested in that the Z7ii cannot do as well or better.

Don't get me wrong the D850 is the best DSLR ever made - but it remains just that - a DSLR. Once you switch to the Z system, you will not want to go back.

Hope this helps :)
-B

traderjohn Loc: New York City

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Riverrune

Thanks B, this does help. I loved my 810 and used it pretty exclusively before buying the Z6. The Z6 became my go to camera for daily shots. Thats why I considered going completely to the mirrorless system after decades of SLR and DSLR cameras. Its tough to abandon the "heft" of a good DSLR, but I think you may be right here.

pocotoo

baron_silverton Loc: Los Angeles, CA

Hi Riverrune - don't worry about the 'heft' issue - if you really want that get the new vertical grip - it is excellent. You have vertical controls - great for portraiture and two batteries making any issue of battery life a moot point - you can also hot swap one of the batteries which is cool and it gives you an extra USB C slot for charging.

When you add the grip, the camera really has the feel of the older DSLR's - you won't regret the switch - start putting you money in to the new Z glass while still being able to use your old DSLR lenses.

Good Luck!

zenagain Loc: Pueblo CO

There is nothing wrong with asking others opinions and experiance as part of research before buying.
If you can't contribute to the OP's question then don't say anything just pass on to the next topic.