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Oct 4, 2012 21:22:01   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
You are wrong, yes, you are wrong. You are wrong about myself and you are wrong about Obama.


Bangee5 wrote:
Richard94611 wrote:
Bangee, I haven't a clue what you really mean by this diatribe. You don't know a damn thing about whether or not I am a capitalist or a socialist. I am capitalist enough to have had two large businesses in my day. Any president is in office because he was either voted in (Obama) or stole the election (W. Bush).

Come to think of it, I bet you couldn't even define "socialist" without consulting a dictionary or a crib sheet. Try it for us.


Now don't get upset but correct me if I am wrong.

socialist = Richard94611
socialist = Obama

There, I have defined what a socialist is. Am I correct?
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Oct 4, 2012 21:22:27   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
singleviking wrote:

I see we have another JOE MACARTHY supporter here. Bet BANSHEE would be out campaigning for that jerk too. If someone is going to link quotes from reports, at least let them be from unbiased reports and not politically affilliated organizations. And not BLOGS either.


If he was running against Obama... You bet!!

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Oct 4, 2012 21:28:55   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
Some of the conservative supporters posting here could easily slip over the edge into fascism.



Bangee5 wrote:
singleviking wrote:

I see we have another JOE MACARTHY supporter here. Bet BANSHEE would be out campaigning for that jerk too. If someone is going to link quotes from reports, at least let them be from unbiased reports and not politically affilliated organizations. And not BLOGS either.


If he was running against Obama... You bet!!

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Oct 4, 2012 21:30:55   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Richard94611 wrote:
I have pointed out several times that if you lower taxes and don't tax new things, you are obviously going to lower the income of the Feds. This will add to the deficit, which is the exact opposite of what the Republicans claim they want.

Bangee, tell us, please, what a socialist is.

Richard94611 wrote:
First, let Bangee definie "socialist" and show how Obama is a socialist.


Blurryeyed wrote:
Richard94611 wrote:
Bangee, I haven't a clue what you really mean by this diatribe. You don't know a damn thing about whether or not I am a capitalist or a socialist. I am capitalist enough to have had two large businesses in my day. Any president is in office because he was either voted in (Obama) or stole the election (W. Bush).

Come to think of it, I bet you couldn't even define "socialist" without consulting a dictionary or a crib sheet. Try it for us.


Bush stole the election.... I suppose that you will soon be saying the same about Romney... I am interested in your answer about the Tax Policy Center statement...
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First off your statement does not address Romney's policy, it addresses MSNBC's and RT's version of Romney's policy which has nothing at all to do with the actual policy... The Tax Policy Center who authored the report that the president refers to said that the president is wrong... but of course you won't address that...

What Romney is proposing is a flatter tax system, lower rates coupled with fewer deductions that will be revenue neutral... Yet you want to continue the Obama lie.. because it fits your cause.

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Oct 4, 2012 21:35:04   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Some of the conservative supporters posting here could easily slip over the edge into fascism.



Bangee5 wrote:
singleviking wrote:

I see we have another JOE MACARTHY supporter here. Bet BANSHEE would be out campaigning for that jerk too. If someone is going to link quotes from reports, at least let them be from unbiased reports and not politically affilliated organizations. And not BLOGS either.


If he was running against Obama... You bet!!


LOL fascism..... What is that again, government control of private industry... Let's see Obama is the closest that this country has ever come to fascism.... His destruction of the coal industry while putting all his close friends into the green industry with government money, huge stock purchases of GM instead of loans and loan guarantees... and he only promises to do more in his second term...... Watch the EPA and see how much control they take over the private industry of this country.... Fascism... yes Obama has that plan in the ol' tackle box.

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Oct 4, 2012 21:36:24   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
Blurryeyed had ask you a question. Did I upset you so much that you have forgotten? I anwered your question now go anwer Blurryeyed's question. I have better thing to do like watch Fox Cable News than to waste my time with you.

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Oct 4, 2012 21:46:38   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
Bangee5 wrote:
Blurryeyed had ask you a question. Did I upset you so much that you have forgotten? I anwered your question now go anwer Blurryeyed's question. I have better thing to do like watch Fox Cable News than to waste my time with you.


Wait a minute..... isn't listening to FOX NEWS like reading Mel Brooks' "HISTORY OF THE WORLD, BOOK1"?

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Oct 4, 2012 21:47:23   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
Richard94611 wrote:
In other words, saying what is below here, you are telling us that you're just not up to it intellectually or that you have no regard for all the members of this forum, to describe your views. What you want only is to try to tear down other people and their views. OK. Now we know where you (don't) stand.

You said: "I'm not really interested in a decent discussion or indecent for that matter on specifics of my disagreements with Obama. If you want to propose some things he believes and see if I agree with him on anything it is up to you but I won't waste time going back forth on whether or not his collectivist views and policies have any merit. He has duped many and that is always an amazing thing to me as he is a poseur and nothing more."

As Truman said, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." And that, metaphorically, is just what you're doing. Fine.
In other words, saying what is below here, you are... (show quote)


You can reframe what I said and assign false motives to my position but my statements stand. I think you need to clean up your act before you try to straighten others out. Most of the "facts" you state are simply opinions based on the same type of ignorance and arrogance your man displayed last night.

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Oct 4, 2012 21:48:53   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Some of the conservative supporters posting here could easily slip over the edge into fascism.



Bangee5 wrote:
singleviking wrote:

I see we have another JOE MACARTHY supporter here. Bet BANSHEE would be out campaigning for that jerk too. If someone is going to link quotes from reports, at least let them be from unbiased reports and not politically affilliated organizations. And not BLOGS either.


If he was running against Obama... You bet!!


Your support for the Fascist in office indicates you beat the conservatives to door.

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Oct 4, 2012 21:49:16   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
gmCase, most of what I have stated has been hard, cold fact, except when I respond to people who blather out their Republican values without any facts to back up their statements.

gmcase wrote:
Richard94611 wrote:
In other words, saying what is below here, you are telling us that you're just not up to it intellectually or that you have no regard for all the members of this forum, to describe your views. What you want only is to try to tear down other people and their views. OK. Now we know where you (don't) stand.

You said: "I'm not really interested in a decent discussion or indecent for that matter on specifics of my disagreements with Obama. If you want to propose some things he believes and see if I agree with him on anything it is up to you but I won't waste time going back forth on whether or not his collectivist views and policies have any merit. He has duped many and that is always an amazing thing to me as he is a poseur and nothing more."

As Truman said, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." And that, metaphorically, is just what you're doing. Fine.
In other words, saying what is below here, you are... (show quote)


You can reframe what I said and assign false motives to my position but my statements stand. I think you need to clean up your act before you try to straighten others out. Most of the "facts" you state are simply opinions based on the same type of ignorance and arrogance your man displayed last night.
quote=Richard94611 In other words, saying what is... (show quote)

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Oct 4, 2012 21:51:31   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
Please tell us your definition -- even the dictionary definition if you find you cannot pull the definition out of your head -- and then explain how Obama's policies are "fascistic."

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Oct 4, 2012 21:53:33   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
Richard94611 wrote:
gmCase, most of what I have stated has been hard, cold fact, except when I respond to people who blather out their Republican values without any facts to back up their statements.

gmcase wrote:
Richard94611 wrote:
In other words, saying what is below here, you are telling us that you're just not up to it intellectually or that you have no regard for all the members of this forum, to describe your views. What you want only is to try to tear down other people and their views. OK. Now we know where you (don't) stand.

You said: "I'm not really interested in a decent discussion or indecent for that matter on specifics of my disagreements with Obama. If you want to propose some things he believes and see if I agree with him on anything it is up to you but I won't waste time going back forth on whether or not his collectivist views and policies have any merit. He has duped many and that is always an amazing thing to me as he is a poseur and nothing more."

As Truman said, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." And that, metaphorically, is just what you're doing. Fine.
In other words, saying what is below here, you are... (show quote)


You can reframe what I said and assign false motives to my position but my statements stand. I think you need to clean up your act before you try to straighten others out. Most of the "facts" you state are simply opinions based on the same type of ignorance and arrogance your man displayed last night.
quote=Richard94611 In other words, saying what is... (show quote)
gmCase, most of what I have stated has been hard, ... (show quote)


I wonder if you are able to distinguish between fact and opinion based n this latest statement you made. List just 4 hard cold facts, of the many you say you stated, that have no opinion attached and go from there. Let's test your abilities to see if your critical acumen is up to par before wasting any further time.

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Oct 4, 2012 21:57:50   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
No, GMC, I will leave that task to you. I have stated a number of facts, and I have often attached opinion to them. No rules against that. That I have opinions about facts doesn't make them any less facts.

What fun tonight is. I'm sipping some nice California wine and enjoying the blather.

stated facts ans
I wonder if you are able to distinguish between fact and opinion based n this latest statement you made. List just 4 hard cold facts, of the many you say you stated, that have no opinion attached and go from there. Let's test your abilities to see if your critical acumen is up to par before wasting any further time.[/quote]

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Oct 4, 2012 22:01:11   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
Richard94611 wrote:
No, GMC, I will leave that task to you. I have stated a number of facts, and I have often attached opinion to them. No rules against that. That I have opinions about facts doesn't make them any less facts.

What fun tonight is. I'm sipping some nice California wine and enjoying the blather.

stated facts ans
I wonder if you are able to distinguish between fact and opinion based n this latest statement you made. List just 4 hard cold facts, of the many you say you stated, that have no opinion attached and go from there. Let's test your abilities to see if your critical acumen is up to par before wasting any further time.
No, GMC, I will leave that task to you. I have st... (show quote)
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So be it.

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Oct 4, 2012 22:03:15   #
Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA
 
Cheers. I drink to your "So be it."

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