Romney's Attempt to Sell Snake Oil (Page 13): I am not a Romney supporter but I am the antithesis of most everything Obama stands for. Both of these men are not friends of the people...

gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch

Richard94611 wrote:

I am certainly not saying that everything has gone well during the past 4 years, either. But the misrepresentations of the people in this forum who favor Ro0mnery are so immense and so striking that they have to be answered. Usually I have other things of greater importance to do than note and correct them. I just happen to have a few days off

I am not a Romney supporter but I am the antithesis of most everything Obama stands for. Both of these men are not friends of the people in any definition of the word friends. They are both looters and big government proponents.

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

Obviously he doesn't like being shown wrong or disagreed with. Pity.

singleviking wrote:

Bangee5
[Is it Romney you are having a problem with or is it the people of this forum. Of what importance are you that we need your correction? There are other forums that might need or even welcome you but we here can surely do without you.] quote.

Since when does a FORUM have only one view point? I guess you enjoy COMMUNISM or a DICTATORSHIP. Who died and left you boss BANSHEE5?

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

I woulkd like to know, GMC, specifically what you think Obama stands for that you disagree with. If you would tell us just a few things, maybe we could have a decent discussion.

gmcase wrote:

quote=Richard94611 I am certainly not saying that... (show quote)

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

Richard94611 wrote:

I am here, Bangee, so get used to it. Now and the... (show quote)

Yes I did. I think you don't know when to keep your mouth shut. You had made you point but went on and on. Obama is where he is at today not because of Obama but because there are people (socialist) such as yourself backing him. He is the man in the picture but he is not the picture itself. Obama could not have made it by himself.

gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch

Richard94611 wrote:

I woulkd like to know, GMC, specifically what you ... (show quote)

I'm not really interested in a decent discussion or indecent for that matter on specifics of my disagreements with Obama. If you want to propose some things he believes and see if I agree with him on anything it is up to you but I won't waste time going back forth on whether or not his collectivist views and policies have any merit. He has duped many and that is always an amazing thing to me as he is a poseur and nothing more.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Richard94611 wrote:

Facts, facts, facts. They do get in the way when ... (show quote)

So how about this for a fact.... The Tax Policy Center who produced the report that the president refers to when he says that Romney will raise taxes on the middle class by $2 trillion has come out and said that there is no real data to support that and that it should not be used by the Obama campaign to attack Romney..... In other words the president and his campaign are lying when they make those statements and ads and have been called out on it by the authors of the report that he makes reference to...

Care to comment on this fact?

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

Bangee, I haven't a clue what you really mean by this diatribe. You don't know a damn thing about whether or not I am a capitalist or a socialist. I am capitalist enough to have had two large businesses in my day. Any president is in office because he was either voted in (Obama) or stole the election (W. Bush).

Come to think of it, I bet you couldn't even define "socialist" without consulting a dictionary or a crib sheet. Try it for us.

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

In other words, saying what is below here, you are telling us that you're just not up to it intellectually or that you have no regard for all the members of this forum, to describe your views. What you want only is to try to tear down other people and their views. OK. Now we know where you (don't) stand.

You said: "I'm not really interested in a decent discussion or indecent for that matter on specifics of my disagreements with Obama. If you want to propose some things he believes and see if I agree with him on anything it is up to you but I won't waste time going back forth on whether or not his collectivist views and policies have any merit. He has duped many and that is always an amazing thing to me as he is a poseur and nothing more."

As Truman said, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." And that, metaphorically, is just what you're doing. Fine.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Richard94611 wrote:

Bangee, I haven't a clue what you really mean by this diatribe. You don't know a damn thing about whether or not I am a capitalist or a socialist. I am capitalist enough to have had two large businesses in my day. Any president is in office because he was either voted in (Obama) or stole the election (W. Bush).

Come to think of it, I bet you couldn't even define "socialist" without consulting a dictionary or a crib sheet. Try it for us.

Bush stole the election.... I suppose that you will soon be saying the same about Romney... I am interested in your answer about the Tax Policy Center statement...

singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines

[quote=Blurryeyed]

Richard94611 wrote:

Facts, facts, facts. They do get in the way when ... (show quote)

So how about this for a fact.... The Tax Policy Center who produced the report that the president refers to when he says that Romney will raise taxes on the middle class by $2 trillion has come out and said that there is no real data to support that and that it should not be used by the Obama campaign to attack Romney..... In other words the president and his campaign are lying when they make those statements and ads and have been called out on it by the authors of the report that he makes reference to...

Care to comment on this fact?[/quote

Numbers don't lie but statistics can be manipulated to show almost anything. Where is the link to this so called federal report? How can you lower taxes and also lower the fiscal debt without serious demise of numerous program? I guess you watch BEAVIS & BUTTHEAD and not MASTERPIECE THEATRE or NOVA.

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

First, let Bangee definie "socialist" and show how Obama is a socialist.

Blurryeyed wrote:

quote=Richard94611 Bangee, I haven't a clue what ... (show quote)

Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana

Richard94611 wrote:

Bangee, I haven't a clue what you really mean by this diatribe. You don't know a damn thing about whether or not I am a capitalist or a socialist. I am capitalist enough to have had two large businesses in my day. Any president is in office because he was either voted in (Obama) or stole the election (W. Bush).

Come to think of it, I bet you couldn't even define "socialist" without consulting a dictionary or a crib sheet. Try it for us.

Now don't get upset but correct me if I am wrong.

socialist = Richard94611
socialist = Obama

There, I have defined what a socialist is. Am I correct?

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

singleviking wrote:

Numbers don't lie but statistics can be manipulated to show almost anything. Where is the link to this so called federal report? How can you lower taxes and also lower the fiscal debt without serious demise of numerous program? I guess you watch BEAVIS & BUTTHEAD and not MASTERPIECE THEATRE or NOVA.

Here ya go slick.

Quote:

What should we infer from this result? Like Howard Gleckman, I dont interpret this as evidence that Governor Romney wants to increase taxes on the middle class in order to cut taxes for the rich, as an Obama campaign ad claimed. Instead, I view it as showing that his plan cant accomplish all his stated objectives. One can charitably view his plan as a combination of political signaling and the opening offer in what would, if he gets elected, become a negotiation.

http://taxvox.taxpolicycenter.org/2012/08/08/understanding-tpcs-analysis-of-governor-romneys-tax-plan/

singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines

Richard94611 wrote:

First, let Bangee definie "socialist" an... (show quote)

I see we have another JOE MACARTHY supporter here. Bet BANSHEE would be out campaigning for that jerk too. If someone is going to link quotes from reports, at least let them be from unbiased reports and not politically affilliated organizations. And not BLOGS either.

Richard94611 Loc: Oakland, CA

I have pointed out several times that if you lower taxes and don't tax new things, you are obviously going to lower the income of the Feds. This will add to the deficit, which is the exact opposite of what the Republicans claim they want.

Bangee, tell us, please, what a socialist is.

Richard94611 wrote:

First, let Bangee definie "socialist" an... (show quote)