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Nov 16, 2020 08:37:08   #
Steve DeMott Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
 
User ID wrote:
The ring has a fixed position relative to the table but not relative to the edge of the image frame. Is that a glass topped round table ? Notice that hot spot break in the foliage, above and behind the table ? That narrowed light source is probably there during all three shots even though the camera position doesn’t show it in the first two shots.


Thank UserID for your comment
The table is a square all metal with no glass top. However, the table I was sitting at has a glass top. I was sitting at this table with my elbows on the table for little stability in shade. I guess it's possible that it's a reflection, but at 170mm with a lens shade I would thing unlikely.

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Nov 16, 2020 08:42:09   #
Steve DeMott Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
 
TriX wrote:
I don’t know about the elliptical ring, but if I may: the last shot is unfixable because the focus is on the foreground leaves instead of the subject, but in my opinion, the others can be improved dramatically by just some basic post processing of brightness and contrast adjustments. You may also wish, if you agree, to change some of your in-camera image adjustments so that your raw or JPEGs require less processing. I’m just viewing these on an uncalibrated IPad, but with your permission, I’ll post/show you what I mean, until those more skilled offer more sophisticated advice.
I don’t know about the elliptical ring, but if I m... (show quote)


Thanks TriX. Yes you can. I left these unprocessed on purpose in case some could see where the transparent ring came from.

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Nov 16, 2020 08:44:26   #
Steve DeMott Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
 
SkyKing wrote:
...most likely culprit is that table...?


Thanks. Thought about that but the table is square with a dull, rough finish. Is possible, I guess.
Thanks for your comment

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Nov 16, 2020 08:46:10   #
Steve DeMott Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
 
Bultaco wrote:
It's her Halo.


SHe is a cutie, but at 4 she's not quit an angel.
Thanks for stopping by.

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Nov 16, 2020 08:50:29   #
User ID
 
ELNikkor wrote:
Since it looks like a projected halo, it could even have been the sun reflecting on an element INSIDE the lens, either out onto the leaves, or back into the sensor; very rare phenomenon!

Interesting and not impossible.

But the camera must’ve been held verrrry exactly the same from frame to frame. Look at the leaves adjacent to the left tip of the ellipse. The ellipse never moves. If a handheld camera shifts only a degree or so, then a reflection cast ten feet out from it would move about a foot (+/-).

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Nov 16, 2020 08:52:35   #
Steve DeMott Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
 
rlv567 wrote:
Two rings can be seen clearly in shots 1, 3 and 4, but only 1 in shot 2. I have no idea as to the source, but since the table appears not to have a glass top, I would doubt that is it.

Loren - in Beautiful Baguio City


I think your on to something. I didn't notice the second ring. You also have to look very close in the 2nd photo it's there at the very bottom. Possible lens flare?

Thanks riv567

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Nov 16, 2020 09:03:30   #
Steve DeMott Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
 
Ourspolair wrote:
Do you have a protective lens on? As others noted, this ring seems to be associated with the table... it is not something in the camera.


I don't have a protector filter on this lens and had the lens shade on. I think the position of the table and ring is coincidental. As riv567 pointed out there are 2 rings in each photo. Look at the shadow, the sun is behind and straight overhead. I'm thinking lens flare

Thanks Ourspolair for your suggestion and stopping by

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Nov 16, 2020 09:06:58   #
Steve DeMott Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
 
ELNikkor wrote:
More seriously, though, after looking at it more carefully, I notice that you zoomed in a bit between frames 3 and 4. The halo actually gets sharper as the background bokeh gets more pronounced in frame 4. The table cannot be the source, as it would not change the halo with zooming, and the angle is wrong for any reflection. What it most probably is, is that you were holding the camera at exactly an angle that the sun was hitting the front surface of your lens (or UV filter, if you used one), and cast the reflection into the frame.
More seriously, though, after looking at it more c... (show quote)


Thank ELNikkor. I think your right. After some of the other comments I believe it's kind-of an odd lens flare

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Nov 16, 2020 09:06:58   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
TriX wrote:
I don’t know about the elliptical ring, but if I may: the last shot is unfixable because the focus is on the foreground leaves instead of the subject, but in my opinion, the others can be improved dramatically by just some basic post processing of brightness and contrast adjustments. You may also wish, if you agree, to change some of your in-camera image adjustments so that your raw or JPEGs require less processing. I’m just viewing these on an uncalibrated IPad, but with your permission, I’ll post/show you what I mean, until those more skilled offer more sophisticated advice.
I don’t know about the elliptical ring, but if I m... (show quote)


Your response is not even related to his question.

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Nov 16, 2020 09:09:17   #
Steve DeMott Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
 
StanMac wrote:
Did you see the ring in your viewfinder? To check if it is a reflection or cast image from the glass table top recreate the shooting situation by setting up your camera at the same spot at the same time of day when the the sun is out to see if the ring is again visible in your shot. Then remove the table from its location to see if that changes anything.

Stan


Thanks StanMac. Don't remember seeing it in the viewfinder. We've ruled out the table and settled on lens flare.

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Nov 16, 2020 09:09:59   #
Steve DeMott Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
 
User ID wrote:
The foliage will be very different. The sun position will be different, It’s unlikely the camera position is accurately known. IOW forget it.


I agree

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Nov 16, 2020 09:10:12   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
Steve DeMott wrote:
My wife and granddaughter were raking and playing in the leaves. Grabed the camera and started shooting. After downloading I notice a semi-transparent ring lower right. Any ideas where this might have come from? At first I thought it might be a double exposure or something on the lens. However, It's on 16 consecutive frames of the 91 I took with-in an hours time. The ring seems to be stationary and in the same line as the green table in back. I took 7 shots before and about 70 more after.

Lots of clouds & and bright. Nikon D750 with 70-300mm 4.5/5.6 VR lens @ 170mm. 1/1250 sec, f/5, iso 2500. Shots are straight out of camera with no post processing. I was sitting under a gazebo with no screens.

Thanks for stopping by and thanks for your help
Steve
My wife and granddaughter were raking and playing ... (show quote)


It's your Granddaughter's hula hoop. On a more serious note, I want to know how you get your wife and Granddaughter to rake leaves while you sit back and take pictures?

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Nov 16, 2020 09:13:43   #
Steve DeMott Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
 
ELNikkor wrote:
Since it looks like a projected halo, it could even have been the sun reflecting on an element INSIDE the lens, either out onto the leaves, or back into the sensor; very rare phenomenon!


I think your right the sun is the culprit. Look at the position of the sun. I'm shooting into the sun but not directly.

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Nov 16, 2020 09:18:06   #
Steve DeMott Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
 
leftj wrote:
It's your Granddaughter's hula hoop. On a more serious note, I want to know how you get your wife and Granddaughter to rake leaves while you sit back and take pictures?


My wife just raked the leaves into a small pile so the little one could throw them around to be raked again. I like your hula hoop idea.

Thanks for stopping by

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Nov 16, 2020 09:23:42   #
User ID
 
Having tried reeeeeally hard to see the second ring, DL and reading glasses in use, I now beg for any good clue or a photo edited with arrows to point it out. I’m one helluva detail inspector but I cannot find a second ring in any one of the four pix :-(

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