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Oct 27, 2020 08:52:40   #
tca2267 Loc: Florida
 
I have read some of the post about the "photo shop sky replacement" and it seems that a lot of the posters were not really for it.....personally I think it's neat!I do have a question for those who use it........

I have attempted to bring in my own sky's but I haven't been able to. When I click on "import skies" and go to my folders with my sky files it shows that my folders are "empty"........do the sky photos that I want to import have to be in a certain format? Mine have all be edited in ACDee and are JPEG's.

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Oct 27, 2020 09:54:50   #
twosummers Loc: Melbourne Australia or Lincolnshire England
 
The solution is simple - switch to Luminar!

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Oct 27, 2020 11:25:38   #
bleirer
 
Click on the little arrow next to the sky box then click the +, navigate to your sky.

Start around 8:30 here https://youtu.be/cdjsUlOxvrU

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Oct 27, 2020 13:19:16   #
zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
 
At some point we have to ask ourselves whether we are photographers or graphic artists. I have a good friend who uses some of my photographs as basis for her computer art. Her work is really cool, and I love how she adds her own vision to my photographs. But replacing the sky and passing this off as an authentic photograph seems ethically challenged to me. Perhaps I could be convinced if Photoshop and Lightroom come out with wife replacement.

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Oct 27, 2020 13:21:04   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
zug55 wrote:
At some point we have to ask ourselves whether we are photographers or graphic artists. ...

I don't.

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Oct 27, 2020 13:25:14   #
bleirer
 
zug55 wrote:
At some point we have to ask ourselves whether we are photographers or graphic artists. I have a good friend who uses some of my photographs as basis for her computer art. Her work is really cool, and I love how she adds her own vision to my photographs. But replacing the sky and passing this off as an authentic photograph seems ethically challenged to me. Perhaps I could be convinced if Photoshop and Lightroom come out with wife replacement.


If i took both shots I have no ethical issues. I wouldn't use a canned sky though.

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Oct 27, 2020 13:29:46   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
bleirer wrote:
If i took both shots I have no ethical issues. I wouldn't use a canned sky though.

Not even if you liked it?

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Oct 27, 2020 15:07:41   #
bleirer
 
Longshadow wrote:
Not even if you liked it?


I personally wouldn't use it because taking the sky photo is half the fun, but I wouldn't give a demerit to any one that did.

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Oct 27, 2020 16:39:02   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
bleirer wrote:
I personally wouldn't use it because taking the sky photo is half the fun, but I wouldn't give a demerit to any one that did.

Hmmm. Could making the sky more appealing possibly be the other half of the fun?

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Oct 27, 2020 18:46:08   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
zug55 wrote:
At some point we have to ask ourselves whether we are photographers or graphic artists. I have a good friend who uses some of my photographs as basis for her computer art. Her work is really cool, and I love how she adds her own vision to my photographs. But replacing the sky and passing this off as an authentic photograph seems ethically challenged to me. Perhaps I could be convinced if Photoshop and Lightroom come out with wife replacement.


If you are talking about documentary photography or photojournalism, then it is certainly unethical. Otherwise, photographers have been replacing skies and making other composite photographs ever since photography was invented and they never felt they were passing anything off. If your friend is using your photographs with another art medium then she is doing mixed media.

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Oct 27, 2020 19:16:33   #
User ID
 
zug55 wrote:
At some point we have to ask ourselves whether we are photographers or graphic artists. I have a good friend who uses some of my photographs as basis for her computer art. Her work is really cool, and I love how she adds her own vision to my photographs. But replacing the sky and passing this off as an authentic photograph seems ethically challenged to me. Perhaps I could be convinced if Photoshop and Lightroom come out with wife replacement.

That question never comes up for me. When I was hired as “Photograper/Graphic Illustrator” I just showed up and got right to work. Most (all ?) of the posts that include the term “Graphic Artist” seem rather clueless as to the jobs that graphic artists actually do.

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Oct 27, 2020 19:37:04   #
bleirer
 
Longshadow wrote:
Hmmm. Could making the sky more appealing possibly be the other half of the fun?


Wouldn't feel right to me. If I sign it even if only in the exif, i feel that I'm saying that i made it, even if I moved things around, erased parts, replaced parts and used brushes to paint part of it, at least they are all my pieces parts.

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Oct 27, 2020 19:38:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
bleirer wrote:
Wouldn't feel right to me. If I sign it even if only in the exif, i feel that I'm saying that i made it, even if I moved things around, erased parts, replaced parts and used brushes to paint part of it, at least they are all my pieces parts.

Still, wouldn't have you made it?

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Oct 27, 2020 20:09:11   #
bleirer
 
Longshadow wrote:
Still, wouldn't have you made it?


Don't worry, I still think you're a real photographer if you use someone else's sky. Andy Warhol comes to mind, where he used parts of other's work to make something unique.

Would you (personally - you) sell a photograph with someone else's sky? I'm not arguing that it is wrong, just asking what you think.

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Oct 27, 2020 20:39:19   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
bleirer wrote:
Don't worry, I still think you're a real photographer if you use someone else's sky. Andy Warhol comes to mind, where he used parts of other's work to make something unique.

Would you (personally - you) sell a photograph with someone else's sky? I'm not arguing that it is wrong, just asking what you think.


No, I would use a sky (mine) I had on file. I just don't take other peoples works (or pieces of it), no matter how much I like them. I have a couple of dozen images from Iceland that a fellow traveler took, things that I didn't shoot. They're in my Iceland folder under his name. We agreed to exchange images we took on the trip.

I do Have maybe a dozen "neat" images on my computer, but they are in a folder entitled "Not Mine".
Only because once in a while I look at them.
I'd never use them for anything though.

Scruples

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