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Oct 14, 2020 08:13:13   #
robirdman
 
Added a 2nd memory card slot.
Still no GPS and no cable release slot to add that way.

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Oct 14, 2020 08:51:24   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
robirdman wrote:
Added a 2nd memory card slot.
Still no GPS and no cable release slot to add that way.


Same old sensor and slow fps.

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Oct 14, 2020 09:10:19   #
BebuLamar
 
Of course there must be some differences but as a glance I see no differences with the Z6 and Z7. The price is lower than the Z6 and Z7 introduction prices.

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Oct 14, 2020 09:24:12   #
CO
 
It seems that they better low light autofocus capability. The AF is now rated to work down to -4.5EV. That's better than any other camera I've seen specs on.

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Oct 14, 2020 12:10:46   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
CO wrote:
It seems that they better low light autofocus capability. The AF is now rated to work down to -4.5EV. That's better than any other camera I've seen specs on.


R5 -6EV.

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Oct 14, 2020 15:06:10   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
I'm pretty happy with what I read, but will hold judgement until I see independent reviews. The IIs went to dual Expeed 6 processors and larger buffers. That should significantly improve AF capability and speed and improve video capability that, hopefully, should make them competitive with Sony and Canon. The Z6 II goes to 14fps and the Z7 II at 10fps. Not great, but not bad at all. They also addressed complaints. Both have dual card slots and vertical grips / extra battery capacity. Image quality was never a problem with the original Zs, so didn't need improvement, but I hear there will be a slight improvement SNR. The price points are surprisingly good and are rippling down through the product line.

I've have stayed with my D850 and D500 combination even though mirrorless has caused so much excitment, but plan on adding a Z7 II if the independent reviews come in as expected.

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Oct 14, 2020 16:23:17   #
Grahame Loc: Fiji
 
I would loved to have seen a slightly larger body on the right side enabling the controls to be more pronounced.

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Oct 14, 2020 17:13:01   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Same old sensor and slow fps.


The email promo I got says the Z6II has a 14FPS frame rate at full resolution, JPEG or RAW.

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Oct 14, 2020 17:19:36   #
CO
 
Grahame wrote:
I would loved to have seen a slightly larger body on the right side enabling the controls to be more pronounced.


The Z9 is supposed to come out in Fall 2021. It's going to have a larger body similar to the current D6.

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Oct 14, 2020 18:22:32   #
CO
 
Architect1776 wrote:
R5 -6EV.


The Canon R5 actually does not have better AF in low light. Canon is using an f/1.2 lens when testing. Nikon is using an f/2 lens. The low light autofocusing capability of the two cameras is practically identical. Nasim Mansurov of the Photography Life website explains this. See the text below.

Canon R5
Dual Pixel CMOS AF
AF Working Range
EV -6 to 20 (f/1.2 lens*, center AF point, One-Shot AF, at 73°F/23°C, ISO 100, One-Shot AF)

Nikon Z6 II
Autofocus SystemHybrid phase-detection/contrast AF with AF assist
Detection Range -4.5 to +19 EV (-6 to +19 EV with low-light AF)
Detection range (ISO 100, f/2.0 lens, 20 °C/68 °F)

Still, EV isn’t totally without practical applications – although most of them do fly somewhat under the radar. For example, you may have seen cameras advertised as metering or autofocusing down to “-4 EV” conditions (or -5 EV, -6 EV, etc.). In that case, EV is an important part of understanding a camera’s capabilities.
It’s also an area where a little knowledge can save you some money. Manufacturers like to fudge their EV numbers by using wide aperture lenses for their measurements. For example, a camera that can focus down to -6 EV conditions with an f/1.2 lens sounds very impressive – and it is – but a camera that can focus in -5 EV conditions with an f/2 lens actually is a bit better in low light (something that is obvious once you equalize the f-stops and shift the EV accordingly).

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Oct 14, 2020 18:59:45   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Wingpilot wrote:
The email promo I got says the Z6II has a 14FPS frame rate at full resolution, JPEG or RAW.


R6 at 20 FPS.

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Oct 14, 2020 19:39:02   #
CO
 
Architect1776 wrote:
R6 at 20 FPS.


You're conveniently mixing up electronic and mechanical shutter rates. The Canon R6 shoots at 12 fps with mechanical shutter. The Nikon Z6 II shoots at 14 fps with mechanical shutter. It does that even with a higher resolution sensor - 24 megapixels for the Nikon - 20 megapixels for the Canon.

It's much better to use mechanical shutter for moving objects than electronic shutter anyway.

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Oct 14, 2020 19:42:45   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
CO wrote:
You're conveniently mixing up electronic and mechanical shutter rates. The Canon R6 shoots at 12 fps with mechanical shutter. The Nikon Z6 II shoots at 14 fps with mechanical shutter. It does that even with a higher resolution sensor - 24 megapixels for the Nikon - 20 megapixels for the Canon.


What about the Z7II?

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Oct 14, 2020 19:56:31   #
CO
 
Architect1776 wrote:
What about the Z7II?


The Z7 II is a little slower at 10 fps because it's a 45 megapixel camera. All high resolution cameras have a slower frame rate than lower resolution cameras. There's much more data to be processed.

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Oct 14, 2020 20:31:21   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Architect1776 wrote:
R6 at 20 FPS.


While 14 fps is no slouch, 20 fps is smokin’!! Neither camera is slow, especially when considering what sports and action photographers had to use as little as 10 years ago.

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