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Sep 25, 2020 10:26:26   #
bobbyjohn Loc: Dallas, TX
 
Anyone seen this new US currency? Just Google "Space Force $2 Bill".

All the internet literature seems to indicate that it is Legal Tender....but I wonder...especially since they are selling for a premium of anywhere from $13.00 - $29.99 each. If it was Legal Tender, and distributed en mass via the US Govt. it wouldn't sell for a premium, as is typical for a collectable, but be worth the $2 face value. Also, we've never seen Gold Leaf or the color blue and a small bit of red on any other U.S. currency.

Whatcha think? Real or Fake?


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Sep 25, 2020 10:40:56   #
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Sep 25, 2020 11:12:09   #
bobbyjohn Loc: Dallas, TX
 
d3200prime wrote:

That page speaks primarily about counterfeit money. If it was counterfeit, then Amazon is in a lot of trouble since they sell this bill for $14.95:
https://www.amazon.com/SPACE-Anniversary-Colorized-Genuine-Tender/dp/B00IO1PCZA

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Sep 25, 2020 11:21:21   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
bobbyjohn wrote:
That page speaks primarily about counterfeit money. If it was counterfeit, then Amazon is in a lot of trouble since they sell this bill for $14.95:
https://www.amazon.com/SPACE-Anniversary-Colorized-Genuine-Tender/dp/B00IO1PCZA

Sorry but you got sucked in by a parody and you seem to be taking this seriously.

You saw it for sale on internet so it must be true.

Check out the seller: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Merrick+Mint&ref=bl_dp_s_web_7937150011

That is also legal tender hey?

https://www.amazon.com/ANNIVERSARY-Keepsake-Colorized-Merrick-Mint/dp/B01NBC92QA/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=Merrick+Mint&qid=1601047336&sr=8-10

Same stuff, different picture.



Sometime it pays to check before posting...

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Sep 25, 2020 11:27:13   #
d3200prime
 
Here it is for you in simple, easy to understand language. The legal tender $2 bill is color enhanced and sold for a profit. This in no way diminishes the value of the $2 bill. You are only paying for the legal enhancement of it. Hope this makes sense to you.

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Sep 25, 2020 13:23:25   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Merrick Mint takes real currency and real coins, and "color enhances" them, for which you pay a premium. They do this for a variety of subjects: US Veterans, Wizard of Oz, Princess Diana, Frankenstein, etc. They will in no way become valuable collectors items. But apparently someone, somewhere, will buy them. Merrick Mint is careful to state that the items are still legal (though I doubt many vendors would accept them as being genuine), otherwise they'd be in violation of the law.

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Sep 26, 2020 12:06:44   #
FredCM Loc: Central Illinois
 
I don't see the magic words "This note is valid tender for all debts public and private."

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Sep 26, 2020 16:55:38   #
DIRTY HARRY Loc: Hartland, Michigan
 
Here's an official Bureau of Printing and Engraving statement that appears to address this matter:
https://www.moneyfactory.gov/resources/lawsandregulations.html

The way I read it is that, unless the "defacement" is officially sanctioned, it is a violation of the law.

I've seen advertisments for privately minted coins that claim to they are legal tender, implying that they have official sanction. They also sell at a higher price than face value.

Beyond that, I'm ignorant. So, if you learn anything more about this subject, please share it with me.

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Sep 27, 2020 03:16:22   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
d3200prime wrote:
Here it is for you in simple, easy to understand language. The legal tender $2 bill is color enhanced and sold for a profit. This in no way diminishes the value of the $2 bill. You are only paying for the legal enhancement of it. Hope this makes sense to you.


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We have a winner!


The $2.00 bill is a legal $2.00 bill and can be used for all debts public and private for the face value of $2.00.

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Sep 27, 2020 04:11:39   #
Steven Loc: So. Milwaukee, WI.
 
Also, I've never heard or seen a US note have a "boxed" serial number.

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Sep 27, 2020 09:18:36   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
DIRTY HARRY wrote:
The way I read it is that, unless the "defacement" is officially sanctioned, it is a violation of the law.
It's unlikely the US officially sanctions these businesses.

- It is illegal to alter genuine currency such that the value is increased (Title 18, Section 471, United States Code).
- It is illegal to "deface" currency (Title 18, Section 333, United States Code); "deface" is defined as cutting, pasting, disfiguring, perforating, cementing, etc. rendering the currency "unfit to be reissued".
- It is illegal to place advertising, personal business cards, etc. on US currency (Title 18, Section 475, United States Code).

Apparently it is not illegal to decorate currency where the denomination, serial number, etc. are preserved. It remains "legal tender" although individuals and businesses (except banks) are not obligated to accept decorated money as payment. (And who would buy a $15 item and use it to pay a $2 debt?)

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Sep 27, 2020 10:24:56   #
Bill 45
 
It is fake money, Lets see why? Anyone known.

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Sep 27, 2020 10:50:34   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Not fake.
According to Merrick Mint website, they've been producing these "works of art" for 23 years.
The bills used are uncirculated U.S. legal currency.
If it were fake money, the secret service would have shut them down long ago.

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Sep 27, 2020 12:10:41   #
Bill 45
 
David Martin wrote:
Not fake.
According to Merrick Mint website, they've been producing these "works of art" for 23 years.
The bills used are uncirculated U.S. legal currency.
If it were fake money, the secret service would have shut them down long ago.


Ok, do you see Treasury Seal ? Do you see the following: "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private"? Do you see what Federal Reserve Bank or System seal ? Without those three item on a bill it not real money. But before using the Federal Reserve Bank's seal you would see "Silver Certificate " on the bills. So it is not legal tender.

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Sep 27, 2020 12:28:13   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Bill 45 wrote:
Without those three item on a bill it not real money.

Look, I'm not defending these folks (I think they produce over-priced junk) and I have "no dog in this hunt."

Yet, its a dreary day and about to rain, so having nothing else to do, let's continue this.

They claim the bills are still legal tender, they've done it for 23 years, have a website, sell on Amazon, etc. and the feds haven't shut them down.

Can you cite a legal reference for your claim that lacking "these three item[s]" it [is] not real money? Or this is your opinion?

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