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Sep 15, 2020 20:34:30   #
VABob
 
Maybe you're using jpeg? If you make edits to the raw file, export as a .tiff, and at any time go back to the raw file in the catalog click edit and click on the history button NOT Destructive.

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Sep 15, 2020 20:44:05   #
CTTonymm Loc: Connecticut
 
JBA wrote:
For some years now my wife and I (both in our 80s) have been using Apple Photos to manage and edit our photos. When extra fine editing - layers, etc - and printing have been required for entry in various contests (and winning) we have used the services of a local custom editing facility. That facility is moving out of town and we will no longer be able to sit down with them to direct custom editing.

We have decided to bite the bullet and undertake editing ourselves. We both use Apple computers.

We are soliciting your input in the selection of software that will allow us to do a more sophisticated job of editing than is possible with Apple Photos. At the same time we do not need the power and complexity of Photoshop. Please help.
For some years now my wife and I (both in our 80s)... (show quote)


Strong recommendation you try ON1 Photo Raw. I migrated to them several years ago after enjoying Lightroom and using Photoshop up to CS6 for years. Just found I could do all I wanted in ON1 and they kept improving every year on presets, auto beginnings which cut down the work and time to tweak -although I can still tweak to my heart’s content for layer fine tuning, etc. I’m 82 and still learning and growing.

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Sep 15, 2020 20:56:07   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
tfitch wrote:
"Luminar is a destructive editor that won't allow me to re-edit or tweak the processing done to an image without trashing work I've already finished and don't want to do over."

I believe once a photo has been edited in Luminar in a Library, you can go back to it in Library and continue your editing with your prior edits being available.

Only partially. You can continue to edit the image but depending on what specifically you've already done you may not be able to tweak your existing work. Which is really bad design and completely sucks.

For example use Luminar's masking ability to create a gradient mask on an image. With that gradient mask in place make a change like darken the area under the gradient. Close that task and go do something else. Oops I think the gradient needs a slight rotation. Go back then to that gradient and rotate the entire gradient a few degrees counter-clockwise. I can give you a list of 1/2 a dozen apps that will let you do that. Luminar won't.

Need another example -- Set and image's white balance and basic tone. Then access Luminar's tools to correct keystoning. Make an adjustment to vertical keystoning and finish that job. Now access Luminar's clone/healing tools and erase some distracting spots in the image. Now go back and re-adjust the vertical keystoning making the change a little less aggressive. Expect that change to update to the cloning/healing work you did as it would in LR or C1 -- screwed by Skylum.

Or decide the white balance you set needs a tweak and go back and add 300 degrees to the temp value. Expect that change to update to the cloning/healing work you did as it would in all the competitor's apps -- screwed by Skylum.

tfitch wrote:
If you export the photo from Luminar the edits you made are locked into the exported photo. If you want to reedit the exported file, it is the same as starting with a new photo - your prior edits are not available. At least that is my experience.

Tom

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Sep 15, 2020 21:00:45   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
JBA wrote:
For some years now my wife and I (both in our 80s) have been using Apple Photos to manage and edit our photos. When extra fine editing - layers, etc - and printing have been required for entry in various contests (and winning) we have used the services of a local custom editing facility. That facility is moving out of town and we will no longer be able to sit down with them to direct custom editing.

We have decided to bite the bullet and undertake editing ourselves. We both use Apple computers.

We are soliciting your input in the selection of software that will allow us to do a more sophisticated job of editing than is possible with Apple Photos. At the same time we do not need the power and complexity of Photoshop. Please help.
For some years now my wife and I (both in our 80s)... (show quote)


Look at Luminar 4.

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Sep 15, 2020 21:00:46   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
bleirer wrote:
I see what you mean. Those are all Photoshop tasks for me so i never missed them or looked for them. I wouldn't attempt any of them in lightroom either because every keeper gets a run through Photoshop anyway. Maybe I'm just used to it but i find Photoshop much easier for anything involving selections or masks or cloning or healing or targeted color or....


That's fine -- a lot of people are comfortable with that and it's worked well for all of us for a long time. What happens when you split your work between apps is that it can be difficult or impossible to go back to the beginning of the process and effect a change and expect that to update through to the end. You can wind up with work to re-do. No big deal for an enthusiast but very bad for a Pro who may be handling large volumes of images.

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Sep 15, 2020 21:13:29   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
VABob wrote:
Maybe you're using jpeg? If you make edits to the raw file, export as a .tiff, and at any time go back to the raw file in the catalog click edit and click on the history button NOT Destructive.


I think this is addressed to me. I noted how Luminar's workflow using raw files is destructive. It is. See this response to tfitch: https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-664608-5.html#11574674

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Sep 15, 2020 21:44:59   #
Daryl New Loc: Wellington,New Zealand
 
Web use Photoscape,easy as

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Sep 15, 2020 23:05:44   #
Robert Edwards
 
I travel a lot with my work. What post processing software would you suggest for use on an Apple iPad?

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Sep 16, 2020 12:18:33   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Can't you just "save a copy" and work on that without touching the original file?

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Sep 16, 2020 12:22:17   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
Bite the bullet. Photoshop, NIK collection, and Topaz DeNoise.

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Sep 16, 2020 12:28:22   #
no12mo
 
drjuice wrote:
You might want to take a look at FastStone's ImageView to start with. If you have a newer Apple (with the x86 processor) it should work just fine. You can even try it out out yourselves for a few days before sending them a small amount of money (amount of $ recommended on the web site). WARNING: I've never used or even tried to with RAW pix.
It took me about a year to work out just where the editing functions were "hidden" but once I did that I was set and it does a whole lot of stuff that other software vendors just dream of. And they do it.without a lot of fluff.
The other suggestion I have is to try the image processing software that comes either standalone or as part of the Corel Draw package. It's extremely functional and I've never not been able to do anything I wanted to using it.
drjuice
You might want to take a look at FastStone's Image... (show quote)


I'm a proponent of minimum processing. However, there are times which some mininum processing is necessary. I like FastStone for shadow an/or highlight tweaking. Speaking of large JPG files, it has a nice compression option. AND it's free, really!

Alan

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Sep 16, 2020 14:58:56   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
VABob wrote:
I was an Apple Aperture user for its entire life span, over 15 years, <snip>....


I resemble that remark however in June of 2014 after evaluation of multiple other softwares I moved to Adobe. I haven’t looked back. However I still miss Aperture‘s database sort functions, there is to date no equivalent that I have found. RIP.

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Sep 16, 2020 16:30:18   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
tfitch wrote:
"Luminar is a destructive editor that won't allow me to re-edit or tweak the processing done to an image without trashing work I've already finished and don't want to do over."

I believe once a photo has been edited in Luminar in a Library, you can go back to it in Library and continue your editing with your prior edits being available. If you export the photo from Luminar the edits you made are locked into the exported photo. If you want to reedit the exported file, it is the same as starting with a new photo - your prior edits are not available. At least that is my experience.

Tom
"Luminar is a destructive editor that won't a... (show quote)

👍👍👍

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Sep 16, 2020 16:33:31   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Nalu wrote:
Bite the bullet. Photoshop, NIK collection, and Topaz DeNoise.


Ah, yes $$$$$$$$$$

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Sep 16, 2020 17:20:34   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Toment wrote:
Bite the bullet. Photoshop, NIK collection, and Topaz DeNoise.

Ah, yes $$$$$$$$$$


Photoshop 120/yr + Nik 99 + Topaz DeNoise 80 = 299 first year And 120/yr after.

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