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Aug 21, 2020 18:49:53   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
While walking through the neighborhood yesterday afternoon I spotted what I thought was a spider on a plant. Just then the owner came out on her way to somewhere and I quickly told her what I wanted to do, photograph a spider, as she passed me by. She gave a somewhat worried, OK, and drove off.

The first spider I have never seen before but it seems to have thorny legs but not as much as another spider this past week. It was also seemingly eating its web and never once stopped moving while I tried to photograph. It just kept going in an ever smaller circle. ISO was up to about 1600 as I recall just to keep the shutter speed up as it was in a darkened area of the yard. I would appreciate an identification if someone knows.

The other two spiders are somewhat identical and I think are orb weavers.

Enjoy. All comments welcome.

Dennis


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Aug 21, 2020 21:09:43   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
dennis2146 wrote:
While walking through the neighborhood yesterday afternoon I spotted what I thought was a spider on a plant. Just then the owner came out on her way to somewhere and I quickly told her what I wanted to do, photograph a spider, as she passed me by. She gave a somewhat worried, OK, and drove off.

The first spider I have never seen before but it seems to have thorny legs but not as much as another spider this past week. It was also seemingly eating its web and never once stopped moving while I tried to photograph. It just kept going in an ever smaller circle. ISO was up to about 1600 as I recall just to keep the shutter speed up as it was in a darkened area of the yard. I would appreciate an identification if someone knows.

The other two spiders are somewhat identical and I think are orb weavers.

Enjoy. All comments welcome.

Dennis
While walking through the neighborhood yesterday a... (show quote)


I've looked in my bug/spider books and Google images and can't find your spider. The closest I saw was a jumping spider but everything else that had that coloration had smooth legs, sorry.

Great photos though. I wonder what it is


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Aug 21, 2020 21:50:28   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
tramsey wrote:
I've looked in my bug/spider books and Google images and can't find your spider. The closest I saw was a jumping spider but everything else that had that coloration had smooth legs, sorry.

Great photos though. I wonder what it is



Thanks for taking a look at my photos and for trying to give it a name. For now, Fred will have to do. Someone here should know. I know he looked mean.

Dennis

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Aug 21, 2020 22:49:19   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
I think the bottom two are Orb Weavers and the other one may be also.

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Aug 21, 2020 22:49:33   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
All are orb weavers, like the one in the story Charlotte's web. I've made a Powerpoint file to help me identify these, as they can be difficult. Fortunately you took pictures of the ventral side, which really seems to be more helpful than dorsal side views since that side is so variable. So based on what I have, it is one of the spotted orb weavers (there are several species with the same common name). In particular, Neoscona crucifera (You can see the wide variations here: https://bugguide.net/index.php?q=search&keys=Neoscona+crucifera&search=Search ). The one working in its web looks like it is making the web, not eating it (though they can do that too). The last one looks different, and I don't know (dorsal side being trickier).

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Aug 21, 2020 22:52:29   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
JRiepe wrote:
I think the bottom two are Orb Weavers and the other one may be also.


From the next reply by Mark it would appear you are correct. Thank you for the information.

Dennis

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Aug 21, 2020 22:54:45   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
https://www.connorspest.com/pest-info/spiders/orbweaver-spider/

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Aug 21, 2020 22:55:33   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
All are orb weavers, like the one in the story Charlotte's web. I've made a Powerpoint file to help me identify these, as they can be difficult. Fortunately you took pictures of the ventral side, which really seems to be more helpful than dorsal side views since that side is so variable. So based on what I have, it is one of the spotted orb weavers (there are several species with the same common name). In particular, Neoscona crucifera (You can see the wide variations here: https://bugguide.net/index.php?q=search&keys=Neoscona+crucifera&search=Search ). The one working in its web looks like it is making the web, not eating it (though they can do that too). The last one looks different, and I don't know (dorsal side being trickier).
All are orb weavers, like the one in the story I ... (show quote)


Thank you Mark for the information and for the link. It definitely shows the spider I submitted that was going in circles. Much appreciated.

Dennis

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Aug 21, 2020 22:57:40   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
JRiepe wrote:
https://www.connorspest.com/pest-info/spiders/orbweaver-spider/


Very helpful. Thank you.

Dennis

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