School Budget: My son and I got our b****ts for the school budget v**e today. Each came with two special envelopes that we have to use. I'm glad we can v**e by mail because there's no...

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

My son and I got our b****ts for the school budget v**e today. Each came with two special envelopes that we have to use. I'm glad we can v**e by mail because there's no way I'd go in person and wait with a crowd. I hope this doesn't decrease the number of people v****g because the school needs the money.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

jerryc41 wrote:

My son and I got our b****ts for the school budget v**e today. Each came with two special envelopes that we have to use. I'm glad we can v**e by mail because there's no way I'd go in person and wait with a crowd. I hope this doesn't decrease the number of people v****g because the school needs the money.

Our primary was rescheduled to next Tuesday.
Because we are both over 65, state law allowed us to v**e by mail.
We have also already v**ed.
Our schools also need more money - but, frankly, they have wasted a lot over the years.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

Everyone complains about school budgets. One common complaint is that someone without kids has to pay to educate other peoples' kids.

When I was one of 3 kids in our family I went to school. I'm pretty sure that the taxes my parents paid did not cover the cost of my education. It depended significantly on the taxes collected from the people without kids in the school.

Now that I am grown out (I can't always claim to have grown up) I have no kids in the school yet I have to pay the taxes to support the school. At this point I consider that I am paying for MY education, well after the fact. And for all my resistance at the time, my education has served me well. I can now afford to buy nice cameras and lenses and software.

Schools, like any other bureacracy, are not perfect and there is room for change. Some people will call change improvement and some will complain about the changes. But without an educated population, we would be in real trouble.

And the teachers, who are harassed by the bureacracy as much as the students and taxpayers, deserve a reasonable living wage.

tramsey Loc: Texas

I think there is many administrative positions that could be eliminated for instance 'assistant to the vice president of health,' salary 110.000, a through spring cleaning is needed. Then when we have eliminated all the unneeded parasites, cut everyone's salary by five percent of those who make inaccess of 150000. Put the money in the general fund and see how much better schools are supplied,

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

tramsey wrote:

I think there is many administrative positions that could be eliminated for instance 'assistant to the vice president of health,' salary 110.000, a through spring cleaning is needed. Then when we have eliminated all the unneeded parasites, cut everyone's salary by five percent of those who make inaccess of 150000. Put the money in the general fund and see how much better schools are supplied,

I moved to our current area just few years ago, but this was a return - I first moved to the area sixty years ago. In this case, “structure confusion” is a long-standing problem. None of the structures I and my siblings attended school in is still used for that purpose; admittedly that includes the building where my siblings attended high school is now a junior high building, but they now have three high schools on the East side of town and only one on the West side. Where we lived on the West side, students are now bussed to a high school on the East side. A few years ago, they re-built a high school building on the East side {a mile away from another aging high school} and turned a newer high school on the West side into a junior high. They are also talking about a new school administration building - which would be the fourth building to house the administrators since we moved here. I am not saying that do not need more money now - but they need to do a much better job of communicating what they are thinking.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

School requirements are changing with technology and some of the older schools can't hack it. In the last town I lived in, an elementary school was built to replace an older building. The old building was converted into a Community Center and a new fire station. It was cheaper to retrofit the building to house the trucks than it was to build a new fire station. There were a lot of suggestions for the re-use of the old building, including, of course, storage. Some storage is included for a food bank.

So it's not necessarily true that the old buildings are just thrown away when they have outlived their utility (although sometimes that's the cheaper solution).

Ollieboy

tramsey wrote:

I think there is many administrative positions that could be eliminated for instance 'assistant to the vice president of health,' salary 110.000, a through spring cleaning is needed. Then when we have eliminated all the unneeded parasites, cut everyone's salary by five percent of those who make inaccess of 150000. Put the money in the general fund and see how much better schools are supplied,

👍👍👍, Also eliminate the politically appointed jobs.

buckbrush Loc: Texas then Southwest Oregon

tramsey wrote:

I think there is many administrative positions that could be eliminated for instance 'assistant to the vice president of health,' salary 110.000, a through spring cleaning is needed. Then when we have eliminated all the unneeded parasites, cut everyone's salary by five percent of those who make inaccess of 150000. Put the money in the general fund and see how much better schools are supplied,

Well, you are obviously not aware of how a ‘good politican' will put your idea into effect!
A previous governor in Oregon dealt with a similar problem of bloated state agencies.
First he told the people who complained of too many workers getting too high a wage that he vowed to eliminate one complete layer of the state workers to bring the government down to a reasonable size.

Therefore he made all state management take a title change down to the title of their next lower level. Directors became Managers, Managers became Supervisors and one complete layer of the state goverment was eliminated. The governor bragged about his accomplishment enough to win the next e******n handily!
What was never told is that not one person had their salary changed to reflect a lower pay. No one was eliminated in the state agencies. In fact the state budget stayed just the same and no one was laid off.
Thats the way a crappy government works!!

HamB

tramsey wrote:

I think there is many administrative positions that could be eliminated for instance 'assistant to the vice president of health,' salary 110.000, a through spring cleaning is needed. Then when we have eliminated all the unneeded parasites, cut everyone's salary by five percent of those who make inaccess of 150000. Put the money in the general fund and see how much better schools are supplied,

On Long Island our school taxes are over $10,000 per annum, completely out of control.

But these mail b****ts are great, our kids haven't lived here in a decade and they got b****ts too!
More NO! V**es

SonyBug

jerryc41 wrote:

My son and I got our b****ts for the school budget v**e today. Each came with two special envelopes that we have to use. I'm glad we can v**e by mail because there's no way I'd go in person and wait with a crowd. I hope this doesn't decrease the number of people v****g because the school needs the money.

There have been a lot of comments prior to this post. Many of those are meaningless for this reason. The current epidemic will (not maybe) change the entire structure of how government collects taxes. The unemployment in our country means many people will not be able to pay taxes. Owners of rental property will not be able to pay taxes if no-one rents. It takes employment to generate the revenue for travel, eating out, recreation, etc. Without that employment, our country will sink into a revenue short abyss that will take decades to overcome, and this is not limited to us, the entire world is in the same situation.

The epidemic will change most of what we considered normal in January, we just don't know how long or how deep the problem will be.

Bill 45

I live in Northern New York (Moira, N.Y.) I mail out my mail b****ts yesterday, I like it. Use to have to go to the school to v**e and half the time I would forget to v**e. With the mail b****t I remember to v**e. Because of CONVIR 19 New York State is looking a 20% cut for everyone schools, police, firemen and ect and ect. The local school want more money, FORGET IT. Yes, HamB school are out of control. Maybe with the mail in b****ts we get control of the schools.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

DirtFarmer wrote:

Everyone complains about school budgets. One common complaint is that someone without kids has to pay to educate other peoples' kids.

Yes, that is a common complaint. We could equalize things by allowing doctors to treat only their parents, and firefighters to fight fires only at their parents' homes. It would get tricky for people in the military. Maybe they could be stationed at their parents' homes and defend against intruders.

The term "Common Good" comes to mind.

StanMac Loc: Tennessee

DirtFarmer wrote:

Everyone complains about school budgets. One commo... (show quote)

Well said!

Stan

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HamB wrote:

On Long Island our school taxes are over $10,000 per annum, completely out of control.

But these mail b****ts are great, our kids haven't lived here in a decade and they got b****ts too!
More NO! V**es

That is what is known as v***r f***d. A crime.

Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal

This is LA, CA.
Every e******n we have a bond issue for new police stations.
Almost every one is approved. Each one takes 20 years of taxes to repay the investors.
They don't build police stations.
We've got lots of planning committees. They have budgets. Expense accounts. Dinners.