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Mar 29, 2020 11:54:04   #
flyguy Loc: Las Cruces, New Mexico
 
rmalarz wrote:
I'm doing the alcohol part as I read this.
--Bob


Looks like I need to get a couple more gallons of vodka and just drink it straight.

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Mar 29, 2020 12:06:28   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Can you post the link to this info. I would like to post it to Facebook.

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Mar 29, 2020 12:11:09   #
mikee
 
I think everclear come in multiple strengths. 190 is 95% .

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Mar 29, 2020 12:32:48   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
lowkick wrote:
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You ignorant little man.

This information is false. It was first published on facebook that has since removed it.

You give 'credence' of someone who is supposedly 'a doctor' mother of an unnamed assistant professor Johns Hopkins University. Sounds just as legitimate as the moron who declared: "My uncle was a scientist therefore I understand science."

My father was a certified accountant therefore I am good at math and economy. I hate math and I am not an economist. Instead I am freaking normal person dealing with the unknown and who does not need false information from credulous nincompoops.

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Mar 29, 2020 12:33:23   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
John_F wrote:
Can you post the link to this info. I would like to post it to Facebook.

It WAS on facebook and has been removed for being false.

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Mar 29, 2020 12:48:34   #
Toby
 
scatman wrote:
My Listerine bottle states 21.6 % alcohol.


I have a bottle of what looks like the original Listerine. Looks like urine and tastes like keroscene. It is labled 26.9% alcohol. I also have a bottle of the new flavored "total care" Listerine labled 21.6% alcohol. Hense neither are good as a hand sanitizer.

Personal comments: if I am getting a sore throat, at bedtime, I gargle with the old style and swallow just enough to coat my throat. In the morning my throat is better. The manufacturer does not recommend this but I figure anything that tastes that bad must be doing some good.

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Mar 29, 2020 12:59:14   #
photodoc16
 
Thanks Bill de,
As a physician, I found nothing that jumped out at me as clearly untrue. It is disturbing if others are using this 'format' to spread misinformation. That said, I could find no 'Ken' on the list of docs at Johns Hopkins assuming that my 'search' address was the best one. I am not a virologist but I will go over this list with others to see if anything is actually wrong and if anything could negatively affect patient care.
Photodoc16

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Mar 29, 2020 13:04:12   #
kenpic Loc: Edmonds, WA
 
John Hopkins says they do not know the origins of this email. Here is their website they cite directly in the above screenshot of their tweet, go here for accurate information: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/

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Mar 29, 2020 13:11:51   #
Toby
 
photodoc16 wrote:
Thanks Bill de,
As a physician, I found nothing that jumped out at me as clearly untrue. It is disturbing if others are using this 'format' to spread misinformation. That said, I could find no 'Ken' on the list of docs at Johns Hopkins assuming that my 'search' address was the best one. I am not a virologist but I will go over this list with others to see if anything is actually wrong and if anything could negatively affect patient care.
Photodoc16


Thanks Doc. Assuming your crudentials are true, and I do, it is nice to have someone knowledgeable responding. There is so much BS on the net, including some here, most of which ignore.

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Mar 29, 2020 13:20:43   #
DocDav Loc: IN
 
Too much wrong with the above. It does remind others to wash or disinfect however. I have seen the same thing here and there on fb and so on.... each time with a different attribution. Example. My friend is a nurse and her hospital posted this from harvard...from an ICU doc who really knows his stuff....etc. Each posting is geared to make you believe the bone fides of the unknown author. Wash your hands. Wash them.often. use sanitizer when you cannot. And dont pick your nose while wearing your gloves....yes I did see that at the grocery store. The proper method is remove glove. Dispose of it properly in the trash. Pick nose. Belch or fart. Don fresh gloves. We are all old enough to remember the hot spots in our cities.....with littered used condoms. Now the parking lots are littered with used gloves that someone has to pickup.

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Mar 29, 2020 13:55:23   #
Swede Loc: Trail, BC Canada
 
flyguy wrote:
Looks like I need to get a couple more gallons of vodka and just drink it straight.


Agreed, what harm can it do, ya might not feel 100% for a bit, the price you have to pay!

Swede

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Mar 29, 2020 15:02:38   #
PhotoMike5319
 
Lots of wrong information. DNA is not protein. All corona viruses are positive single strand RNA viruses with a membrane envelope (composed of phospholipids and proteins). Viruses do enter cells, after they enter a healthy cell they reproduce using the cells biochemistry. Adding oxygen to water does not make peroxide (2nd law of thermodynamics prevents this). UV light has little effect on a protein but it denatures nucleic acids IF the correct wavelength is present.

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Mar 29, 2020 18:21:17   #
stonecherub Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
OK, OK, enough hate and discontent! Everybody (most people) just want to be helpful but the internet has some really nasty people on it. I guess the lesson of the hour is this: If you read something that looks good, Post the link, not the text!

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Mar 29, 2020 19:31:32   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
stonecherub wrote:
OK, OK, enough hate and discontent! Everybody (most people) just want to be helpful but the internet has some really nasty people on it. I guess the lesson of the hour is this: If you read something that looks good, Post the link, not the text!



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Mar 29, 2020 22:50:49   #
tomcat
 
photodoc16 wrote:
Buckbrush,
"Hot water doesn't actually dissolve fat, that's one of the fundamental properties of fats and oils, they aren't water soluble. What happens is that hot water increases the temperature of fats, transitioning them from solids or thick viscous liquids into a much thinner, less viscous liquid. Basically it melts them, since many fats have a relatively low melting point. In the warmer state the fat or oil is more susceptible to being broken up or deformed."
Do you really think an Infectious Disease specialist on staff at Johns Hopkins Medical Center is publishing 'bogus' information?
Photodoc16
Buckbrush, br "Hot water doesn't actually dis... (show quote)


Yes. Viruses come in 2 forms: The viral contents may be either DNA or RNA. The COVID-19 virus contains RNA--not DNA. The outer covering can be lipoprotein (lipids, aka fats to the layman) or just protein. So your source is technically not correct, but close. Pure grain alcohol will dissolve the lipid layer and destroy the RNA, thus inactivating the virus.

Please remember that MD doctors are doctors, trained to heal us and treat diseases. An MD with research experience, PhD has a better understanding. I continuously have to teach MD doctors about thyroid functioning and the importance of tracking the TSH values--with a graph---to spot trends. Too many of them just take the test value at face value.

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