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Mar 28, 2020 11:44:43   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
considering a Rokinon TS 24 for Sony E ( decent reviews, good price ); good value vs Canon TS-Es or Nikon PCs? alternative, buy a used Canon TS-E 24, EOS-R adapter, and a Canon R ( can find all of these used, but
would wind up with another "system," although for specific use ( but, would then have to buy batteries, etc. )

anyone use this Rokinon lens ( regardless of mount )? Reviews on-line are ok, not trying to be Ansel Adams

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Mar 28, 2020 12:44:12   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Ed Chu wrote:
considering a Rokinon TS 24 for Sony E ( decent reviews, good price ); good value vs Canon TS-Es or Nikon PCs? alternative, buy a used Canon TS-E 24, EOS-R adapter, and a Canon R ( can find all of these used, but
would wind up with another "system," although for specific use ( but, would then have to buy batteries, etc. )

anyone use this Rokinon lens ( regardless of mount )? Reviews on-line are ok, not trying to be Ansel Adams


I use Nikon's PC-E lenses. I have the 24, 45 and 85 and use them mostly for landscape. I rarely use the 24, other than for an occasional indoor RE shoot. I thought the Rokinon was ok, but not as sharp as the Nikkor when I looked at it a few years ago. Not sure how any of these would be on a Sony.

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Mar 28, 2020 13:16:44   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Ed Chu wrote:
considering a Rokinon TS 24 for Sony E ( decent reviews, good price ); good value vs Canon TS-Es or Nikon PCs? alternative, buy a used Canon TS-E 24, EOS-R adapter, and a Canon R ( can find all of these used, but
would wind up with another "system," although for specific use ( but, would then have to buy batteries, etc. )

anyone use this Rokinon lens ( regardless of mount )? Reviews on-line are ok, not trying to be Ansel Adams


This lens was received very poorly in reviews, not worth the money!

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Mar 28, 2020 14:45:58   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
A colleague of mine uses one for real estate photography. It is sharp enough- although he seldom uses it wide open and mostly at around f/11 or f/16. It shows a bit more edge fall-off in terms of some possible barrel distortion at wide apertures and can be slightly more problematic when the lens is at maximum vertical rise. The build is manly plastic which could be an issue with a lens with more mechanical movements than just focus, however, he uses it frequently with no issues. The last month he had a cover shot on a real estate magazine and it was extremely sharp and well saturated. Up here in Canada, it was priced about $1,000 less than the Canon version.

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Mar 28, 2020 16:06:43   #
User ID
 
KEH has an all-manual Nikon 24TS for $1600. Add a metabones dumb adapter for $100 and happy Sony !

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Mar 28, 2020 16:12:42   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
I know, there are Canons out there ( I see the 24 is superb ), but, since I am just funning around most of the time, I'm not likely to see the difference, even in an 8x10 - doon't really want to mess around with manual focus, but, I understand that the Canon 24 TS-E can utilize focus peaking on some of the Canons.

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Mar 28, 2020 16:17:18   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Ed Chu wrote:
I know, there are Canons out there ( I see the 24 is superb ), but, since I am just funning around most of the time, I'm not likely to see the difference, even in an 8x10 - doon't really want to mess around with manual focus, but, I understand that the Canon 24 TS-E can utilize focus peaking on some of the Canons.


What is it that you wish to do with a tilt-shift lens? Or put another way, what are you shooting that you think will be helped by one?

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Mar 28, 2020 16:25:55   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
When I travel through cities, mainly like Rome where there are tight quarters ( not that I will be going THERE anytime soon )

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Mar 28, 2020 16:30:37   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Ed Chu wrote:
considering a Rokinon TS 24 for Sony E ( decent reviews, good price ); good value vs Canon TS-Es or Nikon PCs? alternative, buy a used Canon TS-E 24, EOS-R adapter, and a Canon R ( can find all of these used, but
would wind up with another "system," although for specific use ( but, would then have to buy batteries, etc. )

anyone use this Rokinon lens ( regardless of mount )? Reviews on-line are ok, not trying to be Ansel Adams


I took a look at a couple of reviews, and optically it's not bad, construction is cheap, but it will get the job done. For a $1000 I think I'd be happier with spending a little more and getting a used Canon. But I am a Nikon shooter, so that's what I ended up with.

One of the important differences between the Canon and Nikon is that the Canon TS lenses allow you to use the shift and tilt movements in the same axis. So you can shift vertically AND tilt vertically. Nikon's lenses only accommodate shifting at right angle to tilt. In other words, if you shift vertically the only tilt would be horizontally. This has only been an issue for me a handful of times, but when it was, it was a real PITA. I am so accustomed to unrestrained shift and tilt movements in all directions from my view camera days.

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Mar 28, 2020 16:43:44   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Gene51 wrote:
I took a look at a couple of reviews, and optically it's not bad, construction is cheap, but it will get the job done. For a $1000 I think I'd be happier with spending a little more and getting a used Canon. But I am a Nikon shooter, so that's what I ended up with.

One of the important differences between the Canon and Nikon is that the Canon TS lenses allow you to use the shift and tilt movements in the same axis. So you can shift vertically AND tilt vertically. Nikon's lenses only accommodate shifting at a right angle to tilt. In other words, if you shift vertically the only tilt would be horizontal. This has only been an issue for me a handful of times, but when it was, it was a real PITA. I am so accustomed to unrestrained shift and tilt movements in all directions from my view camera days.
I took a look at a couple of reviews, and opticall... (show quote)


Back in the day, on certain jobs, I could bend mt view camera into a pretzel. I use the Canon 24 and it is nice but it does get a little frustrating when the lens tells me it doesn't bend that way! Of course, I can't do a rear-standard movememt on a DSLR or even my converted Mamiya RZ- alas!

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Mar 28, 2020 22:19:02   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Back in the day, on certain jobs, I could bend mt view camera into a pretzel. I use the Canon 24 and it is nice but it does get a little frustrating when the lens tells me it doesn't bend that way! Of course, I can't do a rear-standard movememt on a DSLR or even my converted Mamiya RZ- alas!


The best - and most fun - camera I ever owned was a Horseman 985. When used with a 6x9 220 back it was excellent. Wonderful technical camera, and very portable. The Horseman was to my Sinar P what M4/3 is to Full Frame. Actually better.

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Mar 29, 2020 04:42:29   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Back in the day, on certain jobs, I could bend mt view camera into a pretzel. I use the Canon 24 and it is nice but it does get a little frustrating when the lens tells me it doesn't bend that way! Of course, I can't do a rear-standard movememt on a DSLR or even my converted Mamiya RZ- alas!


The 6x7 roll film back on my Sinar 5 x 4 comes in handy for some jobs, regarding rear standard movements.

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Mar 29, 2020 08:12:37   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
Ed Chu wrote:
considering a Rokinon TS 24 for Sony E ( decent reviews, good price ); good value vs Canon TS-Es or Nikon PCs? alternative, buy a used Canon TS-E 24, EOS-R adapter, and a Canon R ( can find all of these used, but
would wind up with another "system," although for specific use ( but, would then have to buy batteries, etc. )

anyone use this Rokinon lens ( regardless of mount )? Reviews on-line are ok, not trying to be Ansel Adams


Unless you are an architectural photographer, the amount of use of a tilt-shift lens is not worth the money.

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Mar 29, 2020 08:22:53   #
agillot
 
there are a lot of film era nikon 35mm shift , around $ 250 , all manual technology .

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Mar 29, 2020 08:52:42   #
editorsteve
 
Interesting thought. I use tilt to move the focus sweet spot in food photography. For a Sony A6000 I bought two metal "dumb" tilt adaptors, one for pentax and one for Minolta MD --- mainly dumb full frame lenses. $12 each on Alibaba Express at the time. Works perfectly, but really only in the studio.

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