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Mar 24, 2020 16:32:59   #
howIseeit Loc: Kootenays, BC Canada
 
There was a fly in soup when I went on line to shop for a good manual for MY camera, in this case, the recently new to me D800. I love this camera, because I own several old film lenses, full frame manual kind, ones. I took a look on line to see what is available for my D800 ( 270,014 shutter counts) but is working great eh and it was frugal purchase.... When on line I saw user books for D800/D810 and that where it irks me to no end, they all cover the D800 and D810 simultaniusly. I am a stickler for specific camera not its almost the same bretheren or is it sisteren eh! No matter how identical they are, they are not the same. The latter, D810 being even better I am told. Well so be it, mine is D800 and I stick to it. It deserves a separate user book titles as such eh. It reminds me of youtube uploads on camera tutorials where the poster has a wonderfull presentation on camera use but is using the camera that I dont have. He keeps on saying it the slightly different procedure if you have a Nikon while he is using Canon.....Anyway that was my rant eh and now I am back to my corner and watching snow come down, again! To you all, have great stayin eh!

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Mar 24, 2020 16:41:35   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
There are several excellent books available specifically for the D800 or D800/D800E.

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Mar 24, 2020 16:55:54   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA
 
If there are six things different between models, it's probably more cost efficient to print six more pages for one manual than to print two separate manuals, one with six more pages.
(Now some people can nitpick the actual number, but you get the idea.)

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Mar 24, 2020 23:08:11   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
howIseeit wrote:
There was a fly in soup when I went on line to shop for a good manual for MY camera, in this case, the recently new to me D800. I love this camera, because I own several old film lenses, full frame manual kind, ones. I took a look on line to see what is available for my D800 ( 270,014 shutter counts) but is working great eh and it was frugal purchase.... When on line I saw user books for D800/D810 and that where it irks me to no end, they all cover the D800 and D810 simultaniusly. I am a stickler for specific camera not its almost the same bretheren or is it sisteren eh! No matter how identical they are, they are not the same. The latter, D810 being even better I am told. Well so be it, mine is D800 and I stick to it. It deserves a separate user book titles as such eh. It reminds me of youtube uploads on camera tutorials where the poster has a wonderfull presentation on camera use but is using the camera that I dont have. He keeps on saying it the slightly different procedure if you have a Nikon while he is using Canon.....Anyway that was my rant eh and now I am back to my corner and watching snow come down, again! To you all, have great stayin eh!
There was a fly in soup when I went on line to sho... (show quote)


There is only one solution to your dilemma. Buy a D810 as well and use it simultaneously with your D800.

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Mar 25, 2020 06:54:50   #
cdayton
 
repleo wrote:
There is only one solution to your dilemma. Buy a D810 as well and use it simultaneously with your D800.

OK, the owner’s manual for my Jag XF with a normally aspirated V8 also covers the 500+ HP supercharged version so now I’m going to try to convince my wife we need both cars. Can I use you as a reference?

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Mar 25, 2020 07:06:06   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
howIseeit wrote:
There was a fly in soup when I went on line to shop for a good manual for MY camera, in this case, the recently new to me D800. I love this camera, because I own several old film lenses, full frame manual kind, ones. I took a look on line to see what is available for my D800 ( 270,014 shutter counts) but is working great eh and it was frugal purchase.... When on line I saw user books for D800/D810 and that where it irks me to no end, they all cover the D800 and D810 simultaniusly. I am a stickler for specific camera not its almost the same bretheren or is it sisteren eh! No matter how identical they are, they are not the same. The latter, D810 being even better I am told. Well so be it, mine is D800 and I stick to it. It deserves a separate user book titles as such eh. It reminds me of youtube uploads on camera tutorials where the poster has a wonderfull presentation on camera use but is using the camera that I dont have. He keeps on saying it the slightly different procedure if you have a Nikon while he is using Canon.....Anyway that was my rant eh and now I am back to my corner and watching snow come down, again! To you all, have great stayin eh!
There was a fly in soup when I went on line to sho... (show quote)


Here you go. David Busch's D800 book, just for YOU.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=David+busch+D800+book&_sacat=0

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Mar 25, 2020 07:59:53   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Upstate NY
 
Well my current camera is D7100. (I know. If I master it and find it wanting I will consider updating.) I bought a book authored by a well known author and found his word processor failed to replace D7000 with D7100 in numerous instances. Don’t these publishers have editors anymore?

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Mar 25, 2020 08:28:41   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I'm in the school of why do you need a book. The camera's manual will go over the settings and functions of the camera. The first thing I do when I purchase a new camera is to put the batteries in the charger, per the instruction manual, and then read the manual from start to finish. Then, with a fully charged battery, start at the beginning and work through every setting the camera has. When on each setting, I'll make small changes and see what happens as a result. In the process, I become very acquainted with the camera I own and find the most effective way to use it.

Then, I watch a few videos and see if there are any tricks someone has discovered that I might apply. However, most of my testing is to determine the limits of the camera's capabilities.
--Bob

howIseeit wrote:
There was a fly in soup when I went on line to shop for a good manual for MY camera, in this case, the recently new to me D800. I love this camera, because I own several old film lenses, full frame manual kind, ones. I took a look on line to see what is available for my D800 ( 270,014 shutter counts) but is working great eh and it was frugal purchase.... When on line I saw user books for D800/D810 and that where it irks me to no end, they all cover the D800 and D810 simultaniusly. I am a stickler for specific camera not its almost the same bretheren or is it sisteren eh! No matter how identical they are, they are not the same. The latter, D810 being even better I am told. Well so be it, mine is D800 and I stick to it. It deserves a separate user book titles as such eh. It reminds me of youtube uploads on camera tutorials where the poster has a wonderfull presentation on camera use but is using the camera that I dont have. He keeps on saying it the slightly different procedure if you have a Nikon while he is using Canon.....Anyway that was my rant eh and now I am back to my corner and watching snow come down, again! To you all, have great stayin eh!
There was a fly in soup when I went on line to sho... (show quote)

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Mar 25, 2020 08:44:15   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
rmalarz wrote:
I'm in the school of why do you need a book. The camera's manual will go over the settings and functions of the camera. The first thing I do when I purchase a new camera is to put the batteries in the charger, per the instruction manual, and then read the manual from start to finish. Then, with a fully charged battery, start at the beginning and work through every setting the camera has. When on each setting, I'll make small changes and see what happens as a result. In the process, I become very acquainted with the camera I own and find the most effective way to use it.

Then, I watch a few videos and see if there are any tricks someone has discovered that I might apply. However, most of my testing is to determine the limits of the camera's capabilities.
--Bob
I'm in the school of why do you need a book. The c... (show quote)




Todays manuals (at least Nikon) are much better at explaining the hows and whys than they used to be. If after reading the manual there are a couple of points that need more explaining, GOOGLE!

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Mar 25, 2020 08:50:38   #
ABJanes Loc: Jersey Boy now Virginia
 
howIseeit wrote:
There was a fly in soup when I went on line to shop for a good manual for MY camera, in this case, the recently new to me D800. I love this camera, because I own several old film lenses, full frame manual kind, ones. I took a look on line to see what is available for my D800 ( 270,014 shutter counts) but is working great eh and it was frugal purchase.... When on line I saw user books for D800/D810 and that where it irks me to no end, they all cover the D800 and D810 simultaniusly. I am a stickler for specific camera not its almost the same bretheren or is it sisteren eh! No matter how identical they are, they are not the same. The latter, D810 being even better I am told. Well so be it, mine is D800 and I stick to it. It deserves a separate user book titles as such eh. It reminds me of youtube uploads on camera tutorials where the poster has a wonderfull presentation on camera use but is using the camera that I dont have. He keeps on saying it the slightly different procedure if you have a Nikon while he is using Canon.....Anyway that was my rant eh and now I am back to my corner and watching snow come down, again! To you all, have great stayin eh!
There was a fly in soup when I went on line to sho... (show quote)


https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/mastering-the-nikon-d800_darrell-young/1948340/item/15506372/?mkwid=a9sFe07d%7cdc&pcrid=70112899992&product=15506372&plc=&pgrid=21329278272&ptaid=pla-293510704760&utm_source=google_shopping&utm_content=a9sFe07d%7cdc%7cpcrid%7c70112899992%7cpkw%7c%7cpmt%7c%7cproduct%7c15506372%7cslid%7c%7cpgrid%7c21329278272%7cptaid%7cpla-293510704760%7c&gclid=CjwKCAjwguzzBRBiEiwAgU0FT6yqLEZfnPZTNwhmAhazuTWyL7OLFEWCWYdtxmSiYea_wENuOtXcVxoCsBsQAvD_BwE#isbn=1937538052&idiq=15506372

Darrell Young does a very good job on his wide variety of books.

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Mar 25, 2020 09:20:04   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I understand, but in many cases, it's not the controls or settings that change, but the camera's performance. Whether it has 24MP or 36MP, the body and controls are usually the same.

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Mar 25, 2020 09:23:58   #
FrumCA Loc: VA
 
I haven't found this to be a big problem (covering multiple camera models in a single manual) but I do agree discussing a single model makes interpreting the information easier. But then there's the age old question - do men actually ever read the directions?

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Mar 25, 2020 09:33:03   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
FrumCA wrote:
I haven't found this to be a big problem (covering multiple camera models in a single manual) but I do agree discussing a single model makes interpreting the information easier. But then there's the age old question - do men actually ever read the directions?


I had a D750 and one or two books about it. The new D780 is similar but it doesn't have the pop-up flash, so that's one physical change. There might be others. I'm sticking with my D750, though.

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Mar 25, 2020 09:55:38   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Upstate NY
 
rmalarz wrote:
I'm in the school of why do you need a book. The camera's manual will go over the settings and functions of the camera. The first thing I do when I purchase a new camera is to put the batteries in the charger, per the instruction manual, and then read the manual from start to finish. Then, with a fully charged battery, start at the beginning and work through every setting the camera has. When on each setting, I'll make small changes and see what happens as a result. In the process, I become very acquainted with the camera I own and find the most effective way to use it.

Then, I watch a few videos and see if there are any tricks someone has discovered that I might apply. However, most of my testing is to determine the limits of the camera's capabilities.
--Bob
I'm in the school of why do you need a book. The c... (show quote)


This approach works for me. I must say I am impressed by the number of useful options included in the menus that I would have never thought of. BBF being one of them. I doubt that I will never discover everything I would like.

I did a similar exercise with Lightroom with a weird techie goal in mind. I right clicked everywhere, alt clicked everywhere, ... to see what happened. I found many useful things I have not found mentioned elsewhere. Of course, the same behavior with Photoshop is like something Lewis Carroll may have written.

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Mar 25, 2020 09:55:48   #
Glenn Harve
 
Thats several minutes of my life i wont get back.

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