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The EASY Background Remover Hidden in Photoshop!
Mar 22, 2020 10:54:43   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
I wish I had known about this years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C9p23iffNA

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Mar 22, 2020 11:21:27   #
CWS Loc: El Paso, TX
 
Thanks for the link Jim. I'm a beginner PS user and need all the help I can get.

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Mar 22, 2020 11:52:52   #
couch coyote Loc: northern Illinois
 
That is excellent info! Thank you!

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Mar 22, 2020 12:15:18   #
pesfls Loc: Oregon, USA
 
Thanks

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Mar 22, 2020 13:19:22   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
jim quist wrote:
I wish I had known about this years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C9p23iffNA


I’ve always had a problem with this. He’s good. Thanks for the link. More of his videos HERE.

I think a lot of us will be better at post-processing in a few months when this craziness subsides.
Stay well, Jim.

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Mar 22, 2020 14:41:05   #
bleirer
 
The way he showed how to make it nondestructive at the end was very interesting. I usually use refine edge in select and mask because the erase background is destructive, but I'll have to try his way.

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Mar 22, 2020 15:07:44   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
bleirer wrote:
The way he showed how to make it nondestructive at the end was very interesting. I usually use refine edge in select and mask because the erase background is destructive, but I'll have to try his way.


That's why you work on a layer that's a copy of the original.

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Mar 22, 2020 16:32:54   #
bleirer
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
That's why you work on a layer that's a copy of the original.


Sure, but usually using erase background if you find out tomorrow you had a little mess up, you have to delete the whole layer and throw away the time you put into it. At the end of the video he showed how to convert it to a layer mask, meaning a little mess up could be easily fixed tomorrow without discarding the rest of the work.

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Mar 22, 2020 16:54:35   #
bleirer
 
He shows it with a clearly contrasty background where it is easy for the software to tell the difference between the wisp of hair and the background. But when you get into trying to cut out dark wood against a dark wall, with a shadow in between, even getting down to zero tolerance doesn't work. Refine edge doesn't do much better. Hand work in a layer mask is the only way in those tough situations.

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Mar 22, 2020 17:01:30   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
bleirer wrote:
He shows it with a clearly contrasty background where it is easy for the software to tell the difference between the wisp of hair and the background. But when you get into trying to cut out dark wood against a dark wall, with a shadow in between, even getting down to zero tolerance doesn't work. Refine edge doesn't do much better. Hand work in a layer mask is the only way in those tough situations.


My initial tests of his approach were not successful. I agree that his example, where the background is a relatively uniform color contrasting greatly with the desired image, helps it work well. Most of the images I’d like it for are not that way.

I’ll work on learning how and when to apply it.

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Mar 22, 2020 17:14:19   #
bleirer
 
IDguy wrote:
My initial tests of his approach were not successful. I agree that his example, where the background is a relatively uniform color contrasting greatly with the desired image, helps it work well. Most of the images I’d like it for are not that way.

I’ll work on learning how and when to apply it.


His method to convert to a layer mask has merit. Do as much as the erase background will allow then convert to a mask and finish with hand work.

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Mar 22, 2020 17:17:46   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
I like that guy he’s good and I did not know of this tool so I learned a couple good things from the video.

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Mar 22, 2020 17:22:51   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
IDguy wrote:
My initial tests of his approach were not successful. I agree that his example, where the background is a relatively uniform color contrasting greatly with the desired image, helps it work well. Most of the images I’d like it for are not that way.

I’ll work on learning how and when to apply it.


Yes trying to remove the background from A black cat in a coal mine will be difficult with this tool (or any other).

But it is a good tool to know that can be used to can save time given the right scene.

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Mar 23, 2020 14:30:42   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
jim quist wrote:
I wish I had known about this years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C9p23iffNA


There is one in Elements, too, but I'm not sure how early (in which edition) it begins

https://www.essential-photoshop-elements.com/background-eraser.html

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