wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
whfowle
Loc: Tampa first, now Albuquerque
That is seriously long reach for a hand hold shot....for real???
Reminds me of the morning I sat on top of Mt Fuji watching the sun rise over the Pacific.
wdross wrote:
With the 2X teleconverter, it has an angle of view range of 300mm to 2000mm
Let’s confuse things a little more.
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Let’s confuse things a little more.
Not that confusing. Most of the 4/3rds UHH members will understand what this is and means. Most formats, large format all the way down to point and shoot, make lens references against the "35mm standard". The only way to properly compare imaging ability between formats is either field of view or angle of view.
In this case, if a lens was made for a 35mm DSLR, the lens would have to have an angle of view, or a field of view, of a lens with a 300mm to 800mm angle of view. And with the two teleconverters, one internal and one external, the range would then go from 300mm to 2000mm in angle of view. And then it would have to be made handholdable.
There is a specific reason that Olympus and Panasonic chose to go and keep the 4/3rds format. That format allows things to be done and produced that are too large, too big, and extremely expensive in larger formats. I mean,
how soon will we see a FF lens, with an internal teleconverter and an external teleconverter, that will have the actual 300mm to 2000mm range, handholdable, and for less than $10K? How many millennials will be willing to plunk down $30/$35K for such a lens if it could be produced handholdable (Tamron made a 200-500 f2.8 for ~$35K and not handholdable)? There really is method to the 4/3rds "madness".
wdross wrote:
Not that confusing. Most of the 4/3rds UHH members will understand what this is and means. Most formats, large format all the way down to point and shoot, make lens references against the "35mm standard". The only way to properly compare imaging ability between formats is either field of view or angle of view.
In this case, if a lens was made for a 35mm DSLR, the lens would have to have an angle of view, or a field of view, of a lens with a 300mm to 800mm angle of view. And with the two teleconverters, one internal and one external, the range would then go from 300mm to 2000mm in angle of view. And then it would have to be made handholdable.
There is a specific reason that Olympus and Panasonic chose to go and keep the 4/3rds format. That format allows things to be done and produced that are too large, too big, and extremely expensive in larger formats. I mean,
how soon will we see a FF lens, with an internal teleconverter and an external teleconverter, that will have the actual 300mm to 2000mm range, handholdable, and for less than $10K? How many millennials will be willing to plunk down $30/$35K for such a lens if it could be produced handholdable (Tamron made a 200-500 f2.8 for ~$35K and not handholdable)? There really is method to the 4/3rds "madness".
Not that confusing. Most of the 4/3rds UHH members... (
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As a M4/3 user, along with ASP-C and FF, I’m fully aware of how different focal lengths work on different sensor sizes. Your terminology is what might confuse people. “300mm to 2000mm” is not an angle. Now if you said in your original post that this lens will give you the same angle of view as a 300mm to 2000mm on a FF, (or technically “angles of view” it would be more clear. I know what you’re saying but your language isn’t that clear.
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
SuperflyTNT wrote:
As a M4/3 user, along with ASP-C and FF, I’m fully aware of how different focal lengths work on different sensor sizes. Your terminology is what might confuse people. “300mm to 2000mm” is not an angle. Now if you said in your original post that this lens will give you the same angle of view as a 300mm to 2000mm on a FF, (or technically “angles of view” it would be more clear. I know what you’re saying but your language isn’t that clear.
Thank you for the suggestion of more clarity. Sometimes we all need a slightly different point of view to see what we have missed. I will try to remember your suggestion for the future.
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