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Nikon D 6 now on the list
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Feb 12, 2020 12:27:54   #
JohnM Loc: Springfield, Illinois
 
FX
Format
20.8
Megapixels
14 FPS
Continuous Shooting
100-102,400
ISO Expandable to 3,280,000
4K UHD
3840 x 2160 at 30/25/24p

@ $6400 what a bargain

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Feb 12, 2020 12:38:54   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I posted this earlier. Because I included a link it got moved to the hinterlands of "Links and Resources". For all of those who think a new camera will make them a better photographer.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-631759-1.html
--Bob
JohnM wrote:
FX
Format
20.8
Megapixels
14 FPS
Continuous Shooting
100-102,400
ISO Expandable to 3,280,000
4K UHD
3840 x 2160 at 30/25/24p

@ $6400 what a bargain

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Feb 12, 2020 13:13:51   #
Architect1776 Loc: Williamsport Pa
 
JohnM wrote:
FX
Format
20.8
Megapixels
14 FPS
Continuous Shooting
100-102,400
ISO Expandable to 3,280,000
4K UHD
3840 x 2160 at 30/25/24p

@ $6400 what a bargain


Ok.
Not sure where this is more than a very slight refresh of the D5.
Perhaps need more info.

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Feb 12, 2020 14:10:58   #
BebuLamar
 
Nice camera. Somehow I don't feel wanting a camera with high frame rate and fast AF any more.

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Feb 12, 2020 15:01:55   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Way too close to New York City
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Ok.
Not sure where this is more than a very slight refresh of the D5.
Perhaps need more info.


I don't have real details, but the specs list Bluetooth and GPS as features of the D6. I have GPS as an add-on (10 pin connector) for the D5 but it would be nice to have it built in. Bluetooth raises the possibility of improved tethering and maybe even off-camera flash control without a commander on the shoe.

I am not an early adopter. (For one thing I have to build up a secret fund to buy a $6500 camera and that would probably take me a year or so). I have a D4 and a D5. I thought that when I got the D5 I would sell the D4, but it turns out that the D4 has better dynamic range at low ISO levels. So both camera bodies have applications that I'm interested in so I choose which one to use based on what I need to shoot.

The D4 seems to be a basic system. The D5 seems to have a fair amoung of image processing included to get the improvements at high ISO. If you look at the ISO/dynamic range curves you can see the D5 has some funky responses below ISO 3200 or thereabouts. I would want to look at the D6 to see what the results look like. My shooting is somewhat biased toward high ISO but there are a lot of ordinary shots also.

I don't use the high frame rate a lot. It's nice to shoot a burst when using flash on a group to mitigate blinkers, but 10-12 fps is fast enough for that. I use high frame rate for bracketing because you mash the button and it does a bracket quickly and stops. It's convenient. The only other time I really needed the high frame rate was when shooting people speaking at meetings. It's amazing what strange contortions their faces get into when speaking. Some worse than others. There were two guys that I encountered frequently that I had to take several bursts, total of 50-100 shots to get 1 or 2 reasonable looking ones. They were for PR purposes so the funny faces were contraindicated.

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Feb 12, 2020 15:48:40   #
Mac Loc: Hernando County Florida
 
rmalarz wrote:
Because I included a link it got moved to the hinterlands of "Links and Resources".


There is a lot of good stuff posted in L&R

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Feb 12, 2020 15:50:13   #
Mac Loc: Hernando County Florida
 
JohnM wrote:
FX
Format
20.8
Megapixels
14 FPS
Continuous Shooting
100-102,400
ISO Expandable to 3,280,000
4K UHD
3840 x 2160 at 30/25/24p

@ $6400 what a bargain


I'm happy with my 7 year old Df.

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Feb 12, 2020 16:04:59   #
BebuLamar
 
Mac wrote:
I'm happy with my 7 year old Df.


Not quite 7 years Mac

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Feb 12, 2020 16:06:43   #
Mac Loc: Hernando County Florida
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Not quite 7 years Mac


Close enough for government work,

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Feb 12, 2020 16:32:10   #
Architect1776 Loc: Williamsport Pa
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
I don't have real details, but the specs list Bluetooth and GPS as features of the D6. I have GPS as an add-on (10 pin connector) for the D5 but it would be nice to have it built in. Bluetooth raises the possibility of improved tethering and maybe even off-camera flash control without a commander on the shoe.

I am not an early adopter. (For one thing I have to build up a secret fund to buy a $6500 camera and that would probably take me a year or so). I have a D4 and a D5. I thought that when I got the D5 I would sell the D4, but it turns out that the D4 has better dynamic range at low ISO levels. So both camera bodies have applications that I'm interested in so I choose which one to use based on what I need to shoot.

The D4 seems to be a basic system. The D5 seems to have a fair amoung of image processing included to get the improvements at high ISO. If you look at the ISO/dynamic range curves you can see the D5 has some funky responses below ISO 3200 or thereabouts. I would want to look at the D6 to see what the results look like. My shooting is somewhat biased toward high ISO but there are a lot of ordinary shots also.

I don't use the high frame rate a lot. It's nice to shoot a burst when using flash on a group to mitigate blinkers, but 10-12 fps is fast enough for that. I use high frame rate for bracketing because you mash the button and it does a bracket quickly and stops. It's convenient. The only other time I really needed the high frame rate was when shooting people speaking at meetings. It's amazing what strange contortions their faces get into when speaking. Some worse than others. There were two guys that I encountered frequently that I had to take several bursts, total of 50-100 shots to get 1 or 2 reasonable looking ones. They were for PR purposes so the funny faces were contraindicated.
I don't have real details, but the specs list Blue... (show quote)




I just find it interesting.
I am guessing that the D6 is more sports oriented but not enough info yet.
Again too early and looks like minimal information to see a difference in any meaningful way from the D5.
Once it gets hands on reviews then we can see what it really does.
The better AF is intriguing.

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Feb 12, 2020 17:54:31   #
fredpnm Loc: Corrales, NM
 
So...the D6 (using sensor size as the measure of merit) is half the camera of the D850 and is twice the price of the D850. I can see a strong reason to buy the D6....I mean the 850.

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Feb 12, 2020 19:03:40   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Way too close to New York City
 
Sensor size is not the only determinate of merit.

And I would say that, with respect to the title of the thread, the D6 is not yet on the list. It's only there for early adopters, who will tell us if it's worth the money. The price is basically the same as the D5 was when it came out, which makes the D6 a bit cheaper in inflated money.

The D850 is a fine camera and will fit a lot of people. It's more of an all-purpose camera, and the D5 was biased toward high ISO users. I suspect the D6 will also be that way but specs do not tell the story.

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Feb 12, 2020 19:11:43   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
From what I have seen so far is that there are fewer AF points and they are more concentrated in the center. On the surface it seems like a step backwards. Aside from someone who needs the built in connectivity it doesn't seem like much of an upgrade.

I guess more will be revealed when they get to the end users.

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Feb 12, 2020 20:33:42   #
BebuLamar
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Sensor size is not the only determinate of merit.

And I would say that, with respect to the title of the thread, the D6 is not yet on the list. It's only there for early adopters, who will tell us if it's worth the money. The price is basically the same as the D5 was when it came out, which makes the D6 a bit cheaper in inflated money.

The D850 is a fine camera and will fit a lot of people. It's more of an all-purpose camera, and the D5 was biased toward high ISO users. I suspect the D6 will also be that way but specs do not tell the story.
Sensor size is not the only determinate of merit. ... (show quote)


For what it's worth the D6 has the same sensor size as the D5 and is slightly smaller than the D4 sensor.

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Feb 13, 2020 05:54:33   #
trackmag
 
Have D4, D4S and D5. Shoot a lot of horse racing. Do not think the D5 or D6 will do for us what the D4S does.

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