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Jan 27, 2020 20:52:06   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
http://reason.com/2020/01/27/first-amendment-challenge-to-restrictions-on-use-of-falcons-in-videos-and-commercials/

Just when you thought the feds couldn't possibly get stupider and more arrogant, comes this.

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Jan 28, 2020 09:34:49   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
http://reason.com/2020/01/27/first-amendment-challenge-to-restrictions-on-use-of-falcons-in-videos-and-commercials/

Just when you thought the feds couldn't possibly get stupider and more arrogant, comes this.

Should you thank your President for this?

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Jan 28, 2020 23:28:41   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
Should you thank your President for this?


Which President? These federal bureaucracies are rotten with Obama appointees.

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Jan 29, 2020 07:58:22   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
Which President? These federal bureaucracies are rotten with Obama appointees.


No kidding...but I guess we all need to remember that those left-leaning unelected bureaucrats follow the mantra "results don't matter, intentions do" and they just know better than the unwashed masses - don't you see that they care soo much?

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Jan 29, 2020 09:48:53   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
Which President? These federal bureaucracies are rotten with Obama appointees.

But currently serving under Trump.

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Jan 29, 2020 10:17:41   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
But currently serving under Trump.


There ya go! After deriding the Donald for wanting to drain the swamp and remove the "deep state", now you can deride him for not eliminating enough of the parasites fast enough! Good for you!

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Jan 29, 2020 11:01:16   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
HA.....I KNOW you're not pointing out the double standard used by "everyone" to deride the person they don't like......HA

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Jan 29, 2020 13:09:48   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
But currently serving under Trump.


Many of the worst bureaucrats are immune to firing, and are not controlled by the President. Your statement shows either ignorance or dishonesty.

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Jan 29, 2020 16:44:33   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
Many of the worst bureaucrats are immune to firing, and are not controlled by the President. Your statement shows either ignorance or dishonesty.

People working for a federal agency can't be fired....REALLY?

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Jan 29, 2020 17:50:54   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
People working for a federal agency can't be fired....REALLY?


It would seem so - let's ask ourselves, who at the FAA has been fired over the Boeing 737 Max fiasco? Surely the FAA bears some responsibility for having approved the plane for use.

Or who at the various DCFS type agencies has been fired over the endless parade of stories we have seen in the news about children having been harn=med or killed by their shit=tsined parents, all while under the watchful eye of those agencies?

Or who at the EPA was fired when tailings pond dams have failed - after all, the EPA approves those as well.

An enjoyable (if not aggravating, due to its accuracy) is "Save the Swamp: Career Guidebook for Budding Bureaucrats" by Thomas Krannawitter - have a read - see how the 1 out of 6 workers in the US who work for various levels of da gub'ment seem to think of themselves.

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Jan 30, 2020 09:27:02   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
f8lee wrote:
It would seem so - let's ask ourselves, who at the FAA has been fired over the Boeing 737 Max fiasco? Surely the FAA bears some responsibility for having approved the plane for use.

Or who at the various DCFS type agencies has been fired over the endless parade of stories we have seen in the news about children having been harn=med or killed by their shit=tsined parents, all while under the watchful eye of those agencies?

Or who at the EPA was fired when tailings pond dams have failed - after all, the EPA approves those as well.

An enjoyable (if not aggravating, due to its accuracy) is "Save the Swamp: Career Guidebook for Budding Bureaucrats" by Thomas Krannawitter - have a read - see how the 1 out of 6 workers in the US who work for various levels of da gub'ment seem to think of themselves.
It would seem so - let's ask ourselves, who at the... (show quote)

Because no one has been fired doesn't mean that can't be fired.

Correlation is not Causation.

What people think of themselves is irrelevant.

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Jan 30, 2020 10:24:52   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
Uh-huh.

There is no claim of correlation means causation here - a mere fact that in zero cases have bureaucrats been let go regardless of the utter failures of their stated goals - war on drugs, anyone? Incompetence is simply ignored - all while being paid for by OPM - Other People's' Money - i.e. - tax dollars.

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Jan 30, 2020 12:54:48   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
f8lee wrote:
Uh-huh.

There is no claim of correlation means causation here - a mere fact that in zero cases have bureaucrats been let go regardless of the utter failures of their stated goals - war on drugs, anyone? Incompetence is simply ignored - all while being paid for by OPM - Other People's' Money - i.e. - tax dollars.

Still does not support the argument that they can't be fired.

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Jan 30, 2020 13:40:44   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
Still does not support the argument that they can't be fired.


Of course - you're right! Because gub'ment management don't care!

Let's have even more of that stuff! Incompetence matters not - come get a gub'ment paycheck - one and all! You'll never get fired, because nobody cares, not because it's nigh on impossible to fire gub'ment employees - thanks, unions!

Lemme start paying more taxes for that wonderful cause.

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Jan 31, 2020 11:17:13   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
f8lee wrote:
Of course - you're right! Because gub'ment management don't care!

Let's have even more of that stuff! Incompetence matters not - come get a gub'ment paycheck - one and all! You'll never get fired, because nobody cares, not because it's nigh on impossible to fire gub'ment employees - thanks, unions!

Lemme start paying more taxes for that wonderful cause.

I see that you like to rant and complain, but........

I was responding to Los Angeles Shooter 's comment that government employees can't be fired.

They can be fired.

The rest is just noise.

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