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Jan 14, 2020 09:36:41   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
TriX wrote:
I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with that (but maybe you don’t consider manual SS and aperture with auto ISO “manual”). I shoot manual plus auto ISO, and while my composition may be faulty, of the many, many thousands of indoor sports shots I’ve taken, I almost never have an incorrect exposure.


Yeah, I don’t--there’s the difference. To me, manual is full manual everything.

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Jan 14, 2020 09:59:39   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
jaymatt wrote:
Yeah, I don’t--there’s the difference. To me, manual is full manual everything.


Yep, understood.

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Jan 14, 2020 10:20:04   #
rehess Loc: not here
 
tomcat wrote:
Others have mentioned it here, but you cannot do this without a lens that will open up to at least f/1.8. I have been shooting high school sports for years, so trust me. An f/2.8 lens is not going to do the job. I typically use either an 85mm or a 135mm lens and I stand on the corners of the court/under the basket. A crop sensor camera is generally full of noise, so you will have to contend with that.

I could write paragraphs about this topic, but let's start with the basics first. Go get a used full frame body and a lens that is at least f/1.8 if your budget will not allow a new one.
Others have mentioned it here, but you cannot do t... (show quote)
What ISO setting are you limiting yourself to?

I have seen images posted on MSNBC that were taken by 'pro' using a 1DXii using ISO 9000 and a lens opening around f/6. No, most of us are not going to purchase a 1DXii, but my $700 Pentax KP can easily go to ISO 12800 without noticeable problems.

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Jan 14, 2020 10:24:28   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
If you are shooting indoors the light is often not changing and you can take a few test shots to determine exposure or take a couple readings with an incident meter. Set your exposure and fire away. You can also shoot manual with auto ISO with many cameras today.

jaymatt wrote:
You aren’t going to get much in manual mode when shooting any action sports.

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Jan 14, 2020 12:05:41   #
SteveR Loc: Dallas
 
On the other hand, low-light cameras can be a major help. The Nikon D500 and D7500 crop sensor cameras can be used at ISO 6000, allowing apertures higher than f2.8. Shots can also be brightened in post if necessary.

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Jan 14, 2020 12:46:14   #
BebuLamar
 
Nicholas DeSciose wrote:
Why are you using manual mode? I can’t think of anything worse. Use aperture priority or program. With an ISO of about 1000. The advice of a 50 mm or 85 mm is good


Indoor sport the lighting doesn't change and quite even. Manual is good.

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Jan 14, 2020 12:53:53   #
SteveR Loc: Dallas
 
rehess wrote:
What ISO setting are you limiting yourself to?

I have seen images posted on MSNBC that were taken by 'pro' using a 1DXii using ISO 9000 and a lens opening around f/6. No, most of us are not going to purchase a 1DXii, but my $700 Pentax KP can easily go to ISO 12800 without noticeable problems.


12800 with no noticeable problems? You must have gotten one heckuva copy of that camera.

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Jan 14, 2020 12:53:57   #
LWW Loc: REDLEGS NATION
 
jaymatt wrote:
Yeah, I don’t--there’s the difference. To me, manual is full manual everything.


That’s IMHO a bit erroneous.

To get the best exposure in camera one can set sides 1 and 3 of the triangle to anything within the available possibilities ... but side 2, even if manually set, isn’t manually determined. It is what it has to be.

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Jan 14, 2020 12:57:47   #
LWW Loc: REDLEGS NATION
 
SteveR wrote:
12800 with no noticeable problems? You must have gotten one heckuva copy of that camera.


I’m not familiar with that camera, but a D7200 will do it.

Yes there will be some degradation between ISO 3200 and ISO 12800 ... it takes close viewing at large magnification.

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Jan 14, 2020 12:58:44   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
TriX wrote:
I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with that (but maybe you don’t consider manual SS and aperture with auto ISO “manual”). I shoot manual plus auto ISO, and while my composition may be faulty, of the many, many thousands of indoor sports shots I’ve taken, I almost never have an incorrect exposure.


You can only do that in manual mode, so, yeah it is manual.

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Jan 14, 2020 13:00:29   #
SteveR Loc: Dallas
 
LWW wrote:
That’s IMHO a bit erroneous.

To get the best exposure in camera one can set sides 1 and 3 of the triangle to anything within the available possibilities ... but side 2, even if manually set, isn’t manually determined. It is what it has to be.


Choosing a priority is not a "step down" from manual. In manual you may do the same thing. You may say "I need to shoot at 1/250 for this shot, so what would I need to set my aperture and ISO at in order to do so. You are, in essence, selecting a priority without shooting in priority mode, but it's the same thing.

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Jan 14, 2020 13:03:22   #
SteveR Loc: Dallas
 
LWW wrote:
I’m not familiar with that camera, but a D7200 will do it.

Yes there will be some degradation between ISO 3200 and ISO 12800 ... it takes close viewing at large magnification.


My experience with the D7500 is that ISO 6000 is just about its limit in indoor situations, anyway. I can tell just from looking on the live view screen. There is noticeable noise at 12000. However, at 6000 it does allow for the use of slower lenses.

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Jan 14, 2020 13:10:51   #
LWW Loc: REDLEGS NATION
 
SteveR wrote:
Choosing a priority is not a "step down" from manual. In manual you may do the same thing. You may say "I need to shoot at 1/250 for this shot, so what would I need to set my aperture and ISO at in order to do so. You are, in essence, selecting a priority without shooting in priority mode, but it's the same thing.


I never said either was a step down, sorry if that seemed implied.

To peel the onion back, aperture and shutter priority are manual of a sort.

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Jan 14, 2020 13:16:05   #
tgreenhaw
 
As to the original question, you'll need to buy used for a moderate telephoto zoom with an aperture of f2.8 for under $500. Maybe something like: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EF-80-200mm-F-2-8-L-lens/312935420163

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Jan 14, 2020 13:18:54   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
tgreenhaw wrote:
As to the original question, you'll need to buy used for a moderate telephoto zoom with an aperture of f2.8 for under $500. Maybe something like: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EF-80-200mm-F-2-8-L-lens/312935420163


The OP is shooting with a Canon 6D. A Canon 70-200 f4L will achieve good results in the conditions described and can be had refurbished in the price range.

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