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Dec 29, 2019 06:15:50   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
Should I remove the More filter from in front of the sensor on my digital camera for astrophotography? What is the best approach?
Thanks,

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Dec 29, 2019 06:55:46   #
nikonshooter Loc: Spartanburg, South Carolina
 
Were it me....I would remove those with flats and be sure to use a very extreme dither!

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Dec 29, 2019 16:12:46   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
Sorry, I'm dumb, and don't know what a "More" filter is.

I prefer to go against the grain and use One Shot Color cameras for my Astrophotography. They have built in Filter matrix's, so no disturbing them. (Much like a DSLR does.)
The Astro camera I currently use in an Atik Infinity which has it's own program and stacks images as it brings them in. Pretty automatically.

I did use my DSLR (Nikon D3300) a bit, but dedicated Astro cameras are very spartan and have no, to next to no, moving parts. (Some have active cooling for the sensor.)

In my little world my filters are mounted in a filter wheel, and are turned in front of my camera's sensor.
But in reality, I only use two filters, a Moon and Sky Glow, or an Ha7nm to pop the red's in Nebula. Which are my subject of pursuit.
Oh, my wheel is full of the typical Astro filters. I just don't use them hardly ever.

What does a "More" filter do?

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Dec 30, 2019 11:25:40   #
rich1hart Loc: Chicago suburbs
 
I believe the op means moire filter. I don't know the answer.

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Dec 31, 2019 07:18:34   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
OK, guess I confused some with my question. The filter in front of the digital cameras sensor prevents Morie patterns, (I don't know how to put the accent mark over the "E") . Nikon produced an "E" model camera about ten years ago for astrophotography the D800e. This camera replaced the usual filter and replaced it with an optical glass filter that had UV blocking propertied but didn't incorporate the "Morie" properties. Morie are the repeating patterns that occur when you have just that, repeating patterns. Am I trying to prevent something that doesn't matter? At this point it may be just that.

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Dec 31, 2019 11:34:36   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
Okey Dokey, with that I found a great hit on Youtube.

https://youtu.be/a4nuwDl9_1Q

And for your Moriè Left of the 1/! key, but probably in the hidden keyboard.
Or Alt index. https://www.alt-codes.net/
Hold down your ALT key, enter 138. è

Learning, learning, learning.... ☻

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Jan 1, 2020 10:16:14   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
Thanks guys, I was able to obtain a antialiasing filter and was able to overcome the auto focusing distance delema that resulted when the flange to focal distance changed. I now can shoot full HD video with a 5D M-2 with no repeating patterns.

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Jan 2, 2020 13:30:32   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
Artcameraman wrote:
Should I remove the More filter from in front of the sensor on my digital camera for astrophotography? What is the best approach?
Thanks,


The Moriè filter is not useful for astrophotography. In fact, it slightly blurs the image. I like the camera to not have one.

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Jan 3, 2020 11:13:20   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
JimH123 wrote:
The Moriè filter is not useful for astrophotography. In fact, it slightly blurs the image. I like the camera to not have one.


Thanks Jim!
Now that's a moriè...

Back to Astrophotography....
When the Moon hits your eye like a big Pizza Pie,
That's a Moriè....

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Jan 3, 2020 13:58:19   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
SonnyE wrote:
Thanks Jim!
Now that's a moriè...

Back to Astrophotography....
When the Moon hits your eye like a big Pizza Pie,
That's a Moriè....


That's right!

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Jan 3, 2020 16:08:40   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
SonnyE wrote:
Thanks Jim!
Now that's a moriè...

Back to Astrophotography....
When the Moon hits your eye like a big Pizza Pie,
That's a Moriè....


I think you said you have the Nikon 3300. That's the first model that Nikon ommited the "that's a Moriè" filter!

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Jan 4, 2020 12:34:35   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
JimH123 wrote:
I think you said you have the Nikon 3300. That's the first model that Nikon ommited the "that's a Moriè" filter!


I do have a Nikon D3300.
But don't know much of the fine points. I'm more of a hack that bumbles along and gets lucky.
I was smart enough to realize I didn't want to wear it out doing astro shots with it, after amassing ~87,000 operations on it's ~150,000 operations life expectancy.
Not all astro, but when I'd burn through a cool 3,000 + a night doing sky scapes, I could see wearing it out.

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Jan 4, 2020 13:10:33   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
SonnyE wrote:
I do have a Nikon D3300.
But don't know much of the fine points. I'm more of a hack that bumbles along and gets lucky.
I was smart enough to realize I didn't want to wear it out doing astro shots with it, after amassing ~87,000 operations on it's ~150,000 operations life expectancy.
Not all astro, but when I'd burn through a cool 3,000 + a night doing sky scapes, I could see wearing it out.


This is why I use the silent electronic shutter option. It offers unlimited shooting with zero wear on the shutter.

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Jan 4, 2020 14:01:00   #
SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA
 
JimH123 wrote:
This is why I use the silent electronic shutter option. It offers unlimited shooting with zero wear on the shutter.


I don't think my low end D3300 has that as an option. So I gave it delays to stop shaking and quaking.
Until a Dear Friend shown me the way of Atik. Been in imaging bliss every since.
I haven't had my D3300 out for a long, long, time.

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