Sony Mirrorless
Dec 13, 2019 11:27:24 #
DocDav
Loc: IN
i am having an argument with my brother in law - never a good thing but
He is looking at the new Sony a7R4 due to it's large file size ( 61 mega pixels I think). He also has an older smaller computer and an old slower hard drive and rarely prints anything as well as hardly ever does any extreme cropping. I have tried to tell him, however good the camera is, he is going to quickly find he needs a new computer system. Beyond that, in raw, i expect he will fill an SD card pretty rapidly.
In my opinion, shooting in RAW will give him nothing but headaches loading the files into his computer and manipulating them. Besides the obvious, that he can afford it, am I right?
Just wondering as, well, hell, i may be jealous as I shoot a crop Canon 8D which I actually do love.
He is looking at the new Sony a7R4 due to it's large file size ( 61 mega pixels I think). He also has an older smaller computer and an old slower hard drive and rarely prints anything as well as hardly ever does any extreme cropping. I have tried to tell him, however good the camera is, he is going to quickly find he needs a new computer system. Beyond that, in raw, i expect he will fill an SD card pretty rapidly.
In my opinion, shooting in RAW will give him nothing but headaches loading the files into his computer and manipulating them. Besides the obvious, that he can afford it, am I right?
Just wondering as, well, hell, i may be jealous as I shoot a crop Canon 8D which I actually do love.
Dec 13, 2019 11:31:21 #
You're right. Tell the BIL the internet agrees with you. Enjoy the holidays. 
Suggest he rent a copy of the Sony and shoot in RAW and process the files, a minimum of 100, say over a long weekend. Then, he will know the same from his own experience and not blame you, and us by extension.
Suggest he rent a copy of the Sony and shoot in RAW and process the files, a minimum of 100, say over a long weekend. Then, he will know the same from his own experience and not blame you, and us by extension.
Dec 13, 2019 11:32:54 #
Excellent advice.
--Bob
--Bob
CHG_CANON wrote:
You're right. Tell the BIL the internet agrees with you. Enjoy the holidays.
Suggest he rent a copy of the Sony and shoot in RAW and process the files, a minimum of 100, say over a long weekend. Then, he will know the same from his own experience and not blame you, and us by extension.
Suggest he rent a copy of the Sony and shoot in RAW and process the files, a minimum of 100, say over a long weekend. Then, he will know the same from his own experience and not blame you, and us by extension.
Dec 13, 2019 11:45:15 #
If Adobe depended on everyone having a mainframe to run Lightroom raw processing, they would not be such a giant company.
UHH is friendly. Someone with an a7R4 can "dropbox' you some RAWs that you can give your brother-in-law to try.
For what its worth, arguing with in-laws of any sort, is not normally a smart thing to do.
UHH is friendly. Someone with an a7R4 can "dropbox' you some RAWs that you can give your brother-in-law to try.
For what its worth, arguing with in-laws of any sort, is not normally a smart thing to do.
Dec 13, 2019 12:03:47 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
You're right. Tell the BIL the internet agrees with you. Enjoy the holidays.
Suggest he rent a copy of the Sony and shoot in RAW and process the files, a minimum of 100, say over a long weekend. Then, he will know the same from his own experience and not blame you, and us by extension.
Suggest he rent a copy of the Sony and shoot in RAW and process the files, a minimum of 100, say over a long weekend. Then, he will know the same from his own experience and not blame you, and us by extension.
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Dec 13, 2019 12:07:19 #
mas24
Loc: Southern CA
Computers advance just as quickly as cameras do. I have a 7 year old Lenovo computer with a HDD. I could upgrade the RAM and put in a SSD. But, it also has an outdated, slow, Intel i3 CPU. Using that computer for a 61 megapixels Sony mirrorless camera, with RAW files, would be extremely slow. Which is why my next gift to myself, next Spring, will be a new computer with sufficient RAM, faster processor, and SSD storage. As mentioned earlier, the Sony a7r4 can be rented first. To experience the extremely slow process.
Dec 13, 2019 12:15:16 #
mas24 wrote:
Computers advance just as quickly as cameras do. I... (show quote)
"...next Spring, will be a new computer with sufficient RAM, faster processor, and SSD storage."
Which one? That's harder than camera choices.
Dec 13, 2019 12:44:49 #
He would be much better off with an A7iii and a new computer for the same money as the A7Riii.
Dec 13, 2019 12:49:57 #
DocDav wrote:
i am having an argument with my brother in law - n... (show quote)
That looks like a real nice camera. If the computer can't handle it they are cheaper than the camera or a good lens, just another photo accessory.
Dec 13, 2019 12:52:53 #
mas24
Loc: Southern CA
bsprague wrote:
"...next Spring, will be a new computer with sufficient RAM, faster processor, and SSD storage."
Which one? That's harder than camera choices.
Which one? That's harder than camera choices.
I don't know which PC yet. Spring is 3 months away. It could be a Dell, Lenovo, Asus, HP, Acer, etc. It will have at least a newer generation i5 or i7 CPU. And SSD storage.
Dec 13, 2019 13:42:07 #
DocDav
Loc: IN
Thanks all. And for information only. Arguing with the BIL is never fun. Winning is irreplaceable.
Dec 13, 2019 13:48:10 #
If your in law is looking to have the most pixels then tell him to wait until next year when Canon releases their 75 megapixel camera. Bottom line, if he wants something and can afford it, then it's his choice and decision to buy it. Everything you mentioned about handling large files he will find out for himself. I went through a similar situation a few years back when Canon introduced the 50 megapixel 5DSr. Great camera, just not a practical every day shooter.
Besides, if he can afford the camera, he can afford the new computer he'll need to quickly process the files on.
As for you being jealous, you would know better than anyone else! Maybe just a little...!?
Besides, if he can afford the camera, he can afford the new computer he'll need to quickly process the files on.
As for you being jealous, you would know better than anyone else! Maybe just a little...!?
Dec 13, 2019 13:49:53 #
DocDav wrote:
Thanks all. And for information only. Arguing with the BIL is never fun. Winning is irreplaceable.
You have answered the jealousy question...
Dec 13, 2019 13:49:59 #
DocDav
Loc: IN
Laughing. I really don't have a need for that many pixels. Jealousy is one thing, but then practicality hits
Dec 13, 2019 13:58:41 #
He can shoot at smaller file (not image) size until he upgrades the computer.
https://www.sony.com/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-7rm4/specifications?cpint=SG_PRODUCT_DETAILS_PRI-TOUT-PDP-ILCE-7RM4-EN_GL-2019-05-M01-LOREMIPSUM
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https://www.sony.com/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-7rm4/specifications?cpint=SG_PRODUCT_DETAILS_PRI-TOUT-PDP-ILCE-7RM4-EN_GL-2019-05-M01-LOREMIPSUM
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