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Strange sightings on EOS R screen
Dec 12, 2019 16:31:04   #
twosummers Loc: Melbourne Australia or Lincolnshire England
 
Calling in some help. Yesterday whilst taking some work photographs (just new housing developments) with my new EOS R I noticed a couple of things on the EVF. One I had seen before and found out what it was (now forgotten and I can't track down the answer) and the second one is a new one on me. Here we go -

No 1 - Whilst composing one shot using the exposure indicator I noticed not 1 but 2 pointers!! about half a stop apart. No bracketing set just one shot. Taking my finger off the shutter release and half-pressing again I was back to the reassuring single pointer. Please enlighten me?

No 2 - again whilst composing. This time as well as the small square for focus point a large circle appeared in the centre of the screen, camera set for single point AF. Focussing worked ok but what is that circle and why did it put in an appearance?

Camera setting are Manual and Raw, BBF, Single Point AF, One shot. EOS R with RF 24-105 F4L, 100 ISO

Curiouser and curiouser

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Dec 12, 2019 16:42:48   #
fredpnm Loc: Corrales, NM
 
Why not go to page 619 of the camera's manual and see if any of those screen displays gives you a clue to what you are seeing.

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Dec 12, 2019 16:59:50   #
twosummers Loc: Melbourne Australia or Lincolnshire England
 
Thanks Fred - I've gone through the advanced manual but so far no solution. I'm thinking the "extra" cursor pointer thing might be some exposure compensation accidentally activated, maybe turning/pressing in combination. I'll give that a try today to see if I can replicate the issue (feature). James

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Dec 12, 2019 17:04:29   #
twosummers Loc: Melbourne Australia or Lincolnshire England
 
Just had a quick attempt. It's definitely something to do with the star/asterisk button. It then produces a double pointer on the exposure scale. Another press of the same button gets me back to a single pointer. Back to the manual.

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Dec 12, 2019 17:13:39   #
twosummers Loc: Melbourne Australia or Lincolnshire England
 
I think I'm getting there - something about AE lock in manual mode. More reading for me

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Dec 12, 2019 17:20:09   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
twosummers wrote:
I think I'm getting there - something about AE lock in manual mode. More reading for me


It took you four posts to come to a good conclusion, but you got there.



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Dec 12, 2019 17:21:51   #
twosummers Loc: Melbourne Australia or Lincolnshire England
 
Page 139 looks like it! - I now have to understand what it means. (or avoid that button).

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Dec 12, 2019 17:30:18   #
fredpnm Loc: Corrales, NM
 
twosummers wrote:
Page 139 looks like it! - I now have to understand what it means. (or avoid that button).


Page 139 is a mouth full! I had to read it several times, but, not having the camera to play with, it seems Manual Mode isn't really 'manual', at least not totally. On the surface I think I like that...but it seems ISO will adjust even with you being in Manual Mode and for any undesirable exposures, you can adjust to either darken or lighten the image with Exposure Compensation. The * will let you look at a before/after.

Whatever became of the point and shoot, or the Automatic camera? Seems one needs a PhD to fully understand today's modern computer controlled cameras.

Good Luck!

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Dec 12, 2019 17:36:26   #
twosummers Loc: Melbourne Australia or Lincolnshire England
 
Thanks again Fred. I think it's just showing you how the exposure has changed??? since you set it??? It doesn't make much sense does it as I shoot in manual mode. I've only got a Masters degree so clearly not up to understanding the Canon explanation. My camera is a bit like my mobile phone - toooooo many options. I'm scared to try video. Have a great day and thanks for taking an interest.

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Dec 12, 2019 18:42:32   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
I thought my Nikon manuals were confusing, but Canon (at least in this instance) takes the cake.

I downloaded the Canon manual out of curiosity.

It sounds like they are saying that even in manual mode if auto iso is on, the iso will change to maintain 'proper' exposure. However there is a button that will lock the ISO once focus is locked. After that I was lost.

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Dec 13, 2019 11:27:50   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
twosummers wrote:
Calling in some help. Yesterday whilst taking some work photographs (just new housing developments) with my new EOS R I noticed a couple of things on the EVF. One I had seen before and found out what it was (now forgotten and I can't track down the answer) and the second one is a new one on me. Here we go -

No 1 - Whilst composing one shot using the exposure indicator I noticed not 1 but 2 pointers!! about half a stop apart. No bracketing set just one shot. Taking my finger off the shutter release and half-pressing again I was back to the reassuring single pointer. Please enlighten me?

No 2 - again whilst composing. This time as well as the small square for focus point a large circle appeared in the centre of the screen, camera set for single point AF. Focussing worked ok but what is that circle and why did it put in an appearance?

Camera setting are Manual and Raw, BBF, Single Point AF, One shot. EOS R with RF 24-105 F4L, 100 ISO

Curiouser and curiouser
Calling in some help. Yesterday whilst taking some... (show quote)


No 2 is probably because you have it on "spot" metering..... put the camera back to "evaluative" metering and the circle should go away.

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Dec 13, 2019 18:46:57   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
Canon support would be my first choice for assistance.

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Dec 13, 2019 20:06:38   #
kenArchi Loc: Seal Beach, CA
 
Sorry to pop in, I thought it was a UFO thing you saw.

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Dec 14, 2019 11:47:20   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
twosummers wrote:
Just had a quick attempt. It's definitely something to do with the star/asterisk button. It then produces a double pointer on the exposure scale. Another press of the same button gets me back to a single pointer. Back to the manual.


The * (star/asterisk) button on Canon cameras is AE Lock, unless you have customized the camera and re-purposed that button.

When you are seeing two exposure indications in the VF, it is probably because you pressed AE Lock... one of the indications is the locked exposure, the other is the recommended exposure. The difference between them is because you've somehow changed the view since the exposure was locked. If you go ahead and make the exposure while AE Lock is engaged, it will be done using that setting, ignoring the "recommended" setting. (If it weren't locked, it would use be taking the shot at the recommended exposure settings.)

twosummers wrote:
Page 139 looks like it! - I now have to understand what it means. (or avoid that button).


Or, better yet, learn to properly (not accidentally) use AE Lock! It can be a useful tool at times.

I don't know about the circle... Spot metering?

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