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Dec 5, 2019 10:15:45   #
frjeff Loc: Mid-Michigan
 
I am trying the ON1 software on their trial. I have been reading about backing up when using ON1. Seems as though some are concerned about not being able to retrieve the full editing.
I have always backed up my entire computer (Win 10) to 2 external HD’s and the cloud. I use a 5 incremental and then a full every 5th time.
Sidecars are enabled on my ON1.
Is there still something I need be worried about?

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Dec 6, 2019 07:33:20   #
Zaydewise Loc: Nashville TN
 
frjeff wrote:
I am trying the ON1 software on their trial. I have been reading about backing up when using ON1. Seems as though some are concerned about not being able to retrieve the full editing.
I have always backed up my entire computer (Win 10) to 2 external HD’s and the cloud. I use a 5 incremental and then a full every 5th time.
Sidecars are enabled on my ON1.
Is there still something I need be worried about?


Nothing to worry about. I use the GoodSync program to backup my photo files from one external drive to another and never had a problem. I have been using ON1 for years and backup is easy using this program.

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Dec 6, 2019 14:02:08   #
dpswbab
 
frjeff wrote:
I am trying the ON1 software on their trial. I have been reading about backing up when using ON1. Seems as though some are concerned about not being able to retrieve the full editing.
I have always backed up my entire computer (Win 10) to 2 external HD’s and the cloud. I use a 5 incremental and then a full every 5th time.
Sidecars are enabled on my ON1.
Is there still something I need be worried about?


I raised that question with On1 support and their response was 'do a full system backup'. On1 does not have a built-in backup system for their catalog. The sidecar files contain all your edit information, but some of their other features are in the catalog only. As far as I am concerned, the lack of a catalog backup facility is a deal-breaker. If I had to restore the catalog from a full system backup, I would be back-leveling my HD, a situation I consider untenable. Support did say they are working on a solution that would involve On1 Sync.

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Dec 6, 2019 18:25:41   #
Ednsb Loc: Santa Barbara
 
On1 doesn’t use a catalog. It uses your computer file system and creates a small file with your edits. If you are already using a backup don’t blame On1. No Pp software does backups that are stored outside your computer and it’s up to you to back it up.

On Mac, I have an external HD doing a time machine backup of my entire system continuously, I use Carbon Copy Cloner automatically to update a clone to another external hd every day and I continuously backup all of my data files online using BackBlaze for unlimited data for $5/month. I live where have had to evacuate 4 times in the last 4 years (and almost 2 other times including last week). If I’m not home my wife knows the labeled drives are what she should grab If she has time. If not back blaze will save me. 50 database and security expert so I kinda know what I’m talking about.

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Dec 6, 2019 19:20:51   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
dpswbab wrote:
I raised that question with On1 support and their response was 'do a full system backup'. On1 does not have a built-in backup system for their catalog. The sidecar files contain all your edit information, but some of their other features are in the catalog only. As far as I am concerned, the lack of a catalog backup facility is a deal-breaker. If I had to restore the catalog from a full system backup, I would be back-leveling my HD, a situation I consider untenable. Support did say they are working on a solution that would involve On1 Sync.
I raised that question with On1 support and their ... (show quote)


OnOne does not use a catalog system.

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Dec 6, 2019 19:49:13   #
CaptainBobBrown
 
At least with osMac (Catalina and predecessors) if you use Time Machine to automatically and incrementally backup you are almost assured of having images and editing steps saved in backup automatically. I've just upgraded my iMac 19,1 with Fusion Drive to a 2 TB SSD and restored from Time Machine and everything looks good. Windows has similar backup feature doesn't it?

Contrary to papakatz45 assertion, ON1 Photo Raw does use a catalogue system but unlike Lightroom you are not required to catalogue image files before you can edit them. The catalogue feature in Photo Raw has the advantage over uncatalogued directories of providing faster browsing and nearly instant thumbnails and a few other benefits but it's not required. PR lets you access images by going to specified disk drives, by date (which is faster against catalogued folders), by directory, etc. as well. It's all a little faster though if you catalogue the folders first and cataloguing takes place in the background while you continue one with whatever post processing you want.

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Dec 7, 2019 13:06:11   #
dpswbab
 
Yes it does. It is not as comprehensive as LR's catalog, but it is there. One of the things On1 stores exclusively in its catalog are Albums, similar to LR's Collections.

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