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Nov 13, 2019 10:29:11   #
n4jee Loc: New Bern, NC
 
The week before Halloween I was taking some pictures at "Spooktacular" a camping trip for Cub Scouts and their families. Saturday night included trick or treating and a campfire. It was DARK! My experience with low light photography is limited to a few rolls of Tri-X push processed to EI 1600 (2 stops from the films ASA of 400) I didn't expect to get much, but set my Sony A6000 to ISO 25600 and shot. The first shot shows what I intended, a large group of people enjoying a campfire. The second shot I popped the built in flash. I expected to get a shot with the people up close grossly overexposed and fading to black. The shadow is from the 18-135 lens. The 3rd shot of the crowd amazed me. I wish I'd taken one with only the light from the campfire for comparison. I'm really amazed at what that little flash, which is at best good for opening up shadows in outdoor portraits, could do at ISO 26500.







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Nov 13, 2019 10:37:16   #
Bob Mevis Loc: Plymouth, Indiana
 
Digital is amazing. Very nice pics.

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Nov 13, 2019 11:07:25   #
Silverrails
 
n4jee wrote:
The week before Halloween I was taking some pictures at "Spooktacular" a camping trip for Cub Scouts and their families. Saturday night included trick or treating and a campfire. It was DARK! My experience with low light photography is limited to a few rolls of Tri-X push processed to EI 1600 (2 stops from the films ASA of 400) I didn't expect to get much, but set my Sony A6000 to ISO 25600 and shot. The first shot shows what I intended, a large group of people enjoying a campfire. The second shot I popped the built in flash. I expected to get a shot with the people up close grossly overexposed and fading to black. The shadow is from the 18-135 lens. The 3rd shot of the crowd amazed me. I wish I'd taken one with only the light from the campfire for comparison. I'm really amazed at what that little flash, which is at best good for opening up shadows in outdoor portraits, could do at ISO 26500.
The week before Halloween I was taking some pictur... (show quote)


It sounds like you may be new to Digital Photography, at that High of an ISO setting, did you have any "Noticable" Digital Noise in those iimages. Those images you posted looked quite clean, nice.

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Nov 13, 2019 11:22:11   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Silverrails wrote:
It sounds like you may be new to Digital Photography, at that High of an ISO setting, did you have any "Noticable" Digital Noise in those iimages. Those images you posted looked quite clean, nice.


Based on my having owned an A6000 and now an A6300, those cameras handle high ISO settings quite nicely. His camera did pretty well for that high an ISO setting.

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Nov 14, 2019 07:06:50   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
...The first image (This is just my opinion!) really has the feel of what a night image should convey. It has feeling for the night. The other two? Meh.... snapshots.

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Nov 14, 2019 08:36:24   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Nice results

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Nov 14, 2019 08:51:47   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
n4jee wrote:
The week before Halloween I was taking some pictures at "Spooktacular" a camping trip for Cub Scouts and their families. Saturday night included trick or treating and a campfire. It was DARK! My experience with low light photography is limited to a few rolls of Tri-X push processed to EI 1600 (2 stops from the films ASA of 400) I didn't expect to get much, but set my Sony A6000 to ISO 25600 and shot. The first shot shows what I intended, a large group of people enjoying a campfire. The second shot I popped the built in flash. I expected to get a shot with the people up close grossly overexposed and fading to black. The shadow is from the 18-135 lens. The 3rd shot of the crowd amazed me. I wish I'd taken one with only the light from the campfire for comparison. I'm really amazed at what that little flash, which is at best good for opening up shadows in outdoor portraits, could do at ISO 26500.
The week before Halloween I was taking some pictur... (show quote)


Your shadow could have come from the lens hood, if not, then yes, pop up flashes can do this to a long lens.And, yes, you are correct, the best shot would have been from the fire looking back toward the group with no flash.
Also, if you flash can be REAR CURTAIN flash, your flash shots will look more natural taken at night. Rear curtain flash balances the flash and the exposure better, which, you may have used.

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Nov 14, 2019 10:24:02   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
billnikon wrote:
Your shadow could have come from the lens hood, if not, then yes, pop up flashes can do this to a long lens.And, yes, you are correct, the best shot would have been from the fire looking back toward the group with no flash.
Also, if you flash can be REAR CURTAIN flash, your flash shots will look more natural taken at night. Rear curtain flash balances the flash and the exposure better, which, you may have used.


Thanks for the explanation. I was thinking it was a finger over the lower left portion of the lens. Your explanation makes makes more sense.

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Nov 14, 2019 10:43:07   #
n4jee Loc: New Bern, NC
 
yorkiebyte wrote:
...The first image (This is just my opinion!) really has the feel of what a night image should convey. It has feeling for the night. The other two? Meh.... snapshots.


The available light shot is the one I'll use. The others were experiments. I agree with you totally.

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Nov 14, 2019 12:22:48   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
n4jee wrote:
The available light shot is the one I'll use. The others were experiments. I agree with you totally.



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Nov 14, 2019 13:39:06   #
ashriverguy Loc: Rural Minnesota
 
That little built in flash on my Lumix fz 2500 is amazing. I do own a large speed light but it seems I never have it with me; but that little flash does a good job eliminating dark faces, producing nice catch lights
and accentuating colors on birds etc.

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Nov 15, 2019 12:12:58   #
stickugly
 
Agreed. Love that first shot. Firelight is magical.

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