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Nov 11, 2019 08:31:40   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
As a grandma of 5, I’ve found that grands being part of the selection process makes for a wonderful bonding experience and a more enduring gift. One of the features she may find especially attractive is WiFi/Bluetooth connectivity. That said, what if you loaned her the d7000 and the two of you go out on a shoot together?

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Nov 11, 2019 08:32:02   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
repleo wrote:
You still have two DSLRs. Why not try a mirrorless.


...better be careful though 'cause you might find yourself looking for other grandkids to give the other two "clunkers" to. 🤔

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Nov 11, 2019 08:33:52   #
radiojohn
 
Thank goodness there will always be some people who enjoy what we call "traditional" photography. But most teens have never touched a roll of film and do not expect to see pictures printed on paper.

Making a conclusion based on a sampling of teens in a photo class versus a yearbook group will yield vastly different results.

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Nov 11, 2019 08:37:41   #
BebuLamar
 
Any way giving a kid an old camera is not a good idea. Kid needs new stuff although not necessarily good stuff.

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Nov 11, 2019 08:43:19   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
My daughter has displayed an aptitude for photography both with her cell phone and p&s, so when she said she wanted something better I bought her a D7500. She's doing excellent things with it. There are times, however, that I wish she had the AF capacity of the D500, but it's a much bigger camera. If you do any action photography at all and the price difference or size difference isn't a problem for you, got with the D500. Otherwise, the D7500 is an outstanding camera in its own right. It has the same processor and low light capabilities as the D500. It has good AF capabilities, just not the same as the D500 and D5.

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Nov 11, 2019 08:46:23   #
martykovacs
 
I'm very new to this Forum & not sure what I'm doing yet. Having said that, my wife & I raised three granddaughters through those years & on into adulthood. We have a fabulous relationship & it's due to be open & honest with them. I would engage her in a conversation about it & find out what would be the most valuable to her right now. She may not have any interest in photography or, if she does, you may have an opportunity to blossom your relationship with her.

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Nov 11, 2019 08:48:42   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
ollie wrote:
Time for my granddaughter to get into photography ( on yearbook staff in high school) I'm going to give her my Nikon D7000 w/ 18 to 140 Nikon lens. Problem, what to replace it with ? I already have the D800 I use primarily for scenics and a D7100 w/ 80 - 400 for wildlife. The D7000 was my out in the woods hunting or out on the water fishing camera. I'm thinking of the D7500 w/ either an 18 - 140 or an 18 - 300. Thoughts ? from anyone with either combination of a better suggestion ? thanks
Time for my granddaughter to get into photography ... (show quote)


Here is a radical thought, considering where this thread has gone:
How about selling the camera and lens you were going to give her and getting her a smaller, lighter bridge camera with 1" sensor? Perhaps something in the Sony 100 series?

It would be smaller than a full DSLR, have settings that she can use as she learns the exposure triangle, be new, be more modern, be a dedicated camera.

It kills two birds with one stone.
It allows you to have a GAS attack and gives her something new and modern and cool to take pictures with.

Just a thought. Good Luck.

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Nov 11, 2019 08:50:18   #
Dossile
 
I have kids who use iPhones (all of them), one also uses a micro 4/3, one uses a GoPro, one loves DSLR and the youngest doesn’t feel the need to take many shots so the phone is fine. All under 30 and tech savvy. For sports and action like cheerleading and dance an iPhone is inadequate, a no go. And in low light like a dance or school play, her photos have a chance to make a mark. The gift is an excellent one and, along with her phone, will make her a star for the yearbook. Good job grandpa, even if you have to show her the value of a DSLR.

Now for the question. I use my phone frequently, like this image to message to family of Matera in Southern Italy last month. I love my D850: you can sell the D800 and buy this extremely versatile camera. You would love an 850 or the fast action D500. But, if you need a tramp out in the woods camera, why not extend yourself and go mirror less or buy a bridge camera from Panasonic or Sony. A Panasonic G9 micro 4/3 takes great stills and better than average video with interchangeable lenses and is water sealed. Or stay with Nikon and get a lightweight Z5, or the more robust Z7. It’s not only your grand daughter who has an opportunity to expand horizons.



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Nov 11, 2019 08:54:16   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I’m fine with him having an opinion and voicing it, but the critical tone was rather harsh and unnecessary.


Is it possible that you're confusing your reaction and opinion to his choice of words and placing too high a value on your opinion?

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Nov 11, 2019 09:00:44   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Why does the OP need another crop-sensor body at all? Be happy to be rid of a lower resolution crop-body, hopefully to good uses by the HS yearbook team, live with / better use what remains.

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Nov 11, 2019 09:03:55   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
mizzee wrote:
As a grandma of 5, I’ve found that grands being part of the selection process makes for a wonderful bonding experience and a more enduring gift. One of the features she may find especially attractive is WiFi/Bluetooth connectivity. That said, what if you loaned her the d7000 and the two of you go out on a shoot together?


Yabut, just be sure that granddaughter is a child of your daughter who knows you and not the child of a daughter-in-law who may have been molested by a relative "giving gifts and offering lessons" who might perceive your act of kindness as a prelude to isolating the girl and setting her up to later get the blouse off of her, and don't call me cynical - I have three sons and three daughters-in-law and many girls have been brainwashed by older women into thinking of every man as a pervert and expensive gifts are merely proof of "the facts."

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Nov 11, 2019 09:10:19   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
JDG3 wrote:
Interesting thoughts but my experience is just the opposite. I recently completed several photography classes at the local university and in almost all the classes were high school age teenagers who wanted to know more about photography. I would assume most were serious because the requirement for the course was to have a dslr camera with exchangeable lenses. So most had purchased or borrowed a family member's camera.

Using cell phone cameras had instilled a desire to learn more of the technical aspect of photography so they could improve their skills. This was a group that already had the creative drive and talent but needed some technical help in actually being good photographers. Many of the shots in yearbooks are candid, on the spot photos that the cell phone excels at. However, many others are staged shots with preparation, props and composition where the dslr does the job better.

Many of the young people were on yearbook, school newspapers and even local newspaper staffs for local events and activities. They seemed to enjoy the "pro" status when it came to photography assignments and they were the ones packing actual dslrs.

Did they still depend heavily on the cell phone camera - yes and they will not give that up. BUT, they also recognize the value of a more capable camera.

So maybe it is the culture that your grand kids are in that discourages the use of non-cell phone cameras, but it is sure not evident in those I am seeing.
Interesting thoughts but my experience is just the... (show quote)


My cousin who just had a daughter graduate from High School this year in Tennessee, bought his first ever DSLR from a pawn shop. A Canon T4i with an 18-55mm lens. He didn't want to show up at a graduation ceremony with just his iPhone and Tablet, capable of taking photos. He has two daughters, one is now a Senior this semester. All of his daughters owned iPhones attending High School. After graduation, he brought his family to California for a visit. All I can say, is that the father had to ask for his T4i from the graduated daughter, so he could use the camera. She was this way and that way taking photos everywhere. I hope he had a high storage memory card. The way the two of them were using that Canon crop sensor camera together. All I could hear was clicks and later more clicks. Neither of them have attended a photography class. At least not yet. Will any of the daughters give up their iPhone for a DSLR. No, but having an iPhone and access to a DSLR, she found out makes a pretty good combination.

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Nov 11, 2019 09:18:16   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I’m fine with him having an opinion and voicing it, but the critical tone was rather harsh and unnecessary.


Yup!! But these days, I’m finding it EASIER ON MYSELF to just roll bye that kind of sentiment. Pity the poor That live in that morass!.. RJM

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Nov 11, 2019 09:19:40   #
issa2006.
 
Seeing a good picture is more important than the equipment she uses . With your years of experience spending time with her and showing her what might be photographed in a new and interesting way might be a good way to go. That said, I doubt she will want grandpa helping her shoot photos at school but she could learn a lot from you shooting in other situations .

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Nov 11, 2019 09:20:03   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
gessman wrote:
Yabut, just be sure that granddaughter is a child of your daughter who knows you and not the child of a daughter-in-law who may have been molested by a relative "giving gifts and offering lessons" who might perceive your act of kindness as a prelude to isolating the girl and setting her up to later get the blouse off of her, and don't call me cynical - I have three sons and three daughters-in-law and many girls have been brainwashed by older women into thinking of every man as a pervert and expensive gifts are merely proof of "the facts."
Yabut, just be sure that granddaughter is a child ... (show quote)


Christ almighty, man, get a grip!!

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