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Nov 3, 2019 18:13:10   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
Another from a group shoot. A small amount of compositing - the window view, shoe reflection and a texture - but to get it looking the way I wanted took a lot of Ps. Small details such as the flame light from the heater, skin retouch, dodge and burn and removing minor distractions take a lot of time - and some experimentation. Was it worth it? I think so - what are your thoughts on it please?

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Nov 3, 2019 20:54:28   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
Yoinks! I went, "HUH?" Then, "WOW!" I don't think you HAVE to do anything. I wonder about two smallish things: the light from the windows might create a bit of a shadow of the woman's leg on the floor, and those windows seem a bit strange, not on the same wall in the same perspective. Again, those don't really bother me, as the impact of the image is so strong.

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Nov 3, 2019 21:44:37   #
Jim-Pops Loc: Granbury, Texas
 
Outstanding model and clothing. The surroundings are so good. All the highlights on her clothing it top notch. Skin color perfect. The outside exposure is as good as it should be. I think the workshop was well worth it. Did she stay in the same clothing during the whole workshop?

The only thing that did bother me was nothing you did wrong. I thought her mouth was at an odd position. I used Liquify 3 full times to move it around some. Might be better but not sure.

All in all I would say it is a perfect picture with outstanding pp work. Grading it from 1-10 I give you a 10! đź‘Ź

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Nov 4, 2019 01:22:42   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
artBob wrote:
Yoinks! I went, "HUH?" Then, "WOW!" I don't think you HAVE to do anything. I wonder about two smallish things: the light from the windows might create a bit of a shadow of the woman's leg on the floor, and those windows seem a bit strange, not on the same wall in the same perspective. Again, those don't really bother me, as the impact of the image is so strong.


The shot, in terms of what’s in it, is pretty-much as taken Bob. There was very limited space in the small workshop, so getting the model between the windows was about my only option, but I knew they would be a blank white. I simply added a Threshold adjustment layer to the windows, made a selection of the frames and exchanged the blank white for a shot I took through a different window on another shoot. Not sure why you feel they’re not on the same wall though - maybe when I straightened the original I messed-up the perspective? I trust your eye, so something must have happened. As for the shadow, there wasn’t much of one really, nothing of size or well defined, so I added a reflection of the shoe, as if on an oily floor, plus a bit of vignette to the bottom of the shot - otherwise known as fudging it! Oh, and I had to add a bit of floor at the bottom due to the tight shooting angle. Thanks for the reliable critique, it’s appreciated, as you know.

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Nov 4, 2019 01:31:19   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
Jim-Pops wrote:
Outstanding model and clothing. The surroundings are so good. All the highlights on her clothing it top notch. Skin color perfect. The outside exposure is as good as it should be. I think the workshop was well worth it. Did she stay in the same clothing during the whole workshop?

The only thing that did bother me was nothing you did wrong. I thought her mouth was at an odd position. I used Liquify 3 full times to move it around some. Might be better but not sure.

All in all I would say it is a perfect picture with outstanding pp work. Grading it from 1-10 I give you a 10! đź‘Ź
Outstanding model and clothing. The surroundings a... (show quote)


Thank you Jim, high praise indeed! You’ve hit on some of the aspects I spent quite a bit a pp time on. She was the perfect model for my liking - characterful, relaxed and easy to work with, totally professional, and with a good wardrobe, so we got her in several outfits. Being an old biker, this was my favourite. I’d be interested to see your liquify result, it so often happens that a facial expression doesn’t quite match the look we’re after. Please feel free to post it here.

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Nov 4, 2019 08:41:51   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
magnetoman wrote:
Another from a group shoot. A small amount of compositing - the window view, shoe reflection and a texture - but to get it looking the way I wanted took a lot of Ps. Small details such as the flame light from the heater, skin retouch, dodge and burn and removing minor distractions take a lot of time - and some experimentation. Was it worth it? I think so - what are your thoughts on it please?


It ALL Works and works VERY Well!!!
I am amazed at this thorough and complete exercise in exposure!
While it is not a portrait, a landscape, etc. it is very pleasing and unique to me.
Also while it is not my style of shooting I find that it has a mood and personality all of its own.
I can not find fault with anything in this pic technically or subjectively.
While I am not a fan of the darkness and grittiness of this pic, it sure suits the subject matter, period.
It draws me back for a second and third look.
I find that all of the technical aspects of this pic are very well met, right down to the almost latent reflection of the high heel on the floor.
Yes, I am a "fan" of this pic and I look forward to more from magnetoman.
Smile,
Jimmy T Sends
Bravo Zulu

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Nov 4, 2019 09:02:55   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
Jimmy T wrote:
It ALL Works and works VERY Well!!!
I am amazed at this thorough and complete exercise in exposure!
While it is not a portrait, a landscape, etc. it is very pleasing and unique to me.
Also while it is not my style of shooting I find that it has a mood and personality all of its own.
I can not find fault with anything in this pic technically or subjectively.
While I am not a fan of the darkness and grittiness of this pic, it sure suits the subject matter, period.
It draws me back for a second and third look.
I find that all of the technical aspects of this pic are very well met, right down to the almost latent reflection of the high heel on the floor.
Yes, I am a "fan" of this pic and I look forward to more from magnetoman.
Smile,
Jimmy T Sends
Bravo Zulu
It ALL Works and works VERY Well!!! br I am amazed... (show quote)


Very kind of you to say so Jimmy. I’m glad you’ve enjoyed it, especially as it’s not normally your sort of thing. Also happy that you’ve picked-up on that heel reflection, I thought nobody would notice it!

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Nov 4, 2019 09:16:19   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
magnetoman wrote:
The shot, in terms of what’s in it, is pretty-much as taken Bob. There was very limited space in the small workshop, so getting the model between the windows was about my only option, but I knew they would be a blank white. I simply added a Threshold adjustment layer to the windows, made a selection of the frames and exchanged the blank white for a shot I took through a different window on another shoot. Not sure why you feel they’re not on the same wall though - maybe when I straightened the original I messed-up the perspective? I trust your eye, so something must have happened. As for the shadow, there wasn’t much of one really, nothing of size or well defined, so I added a reflection of the shoe, as if on an oily floor, plus a bit of vignette to the bottom of the shot - otherwise known as fudging it! Oh, and I had to add a bit of floor at the bottom due to the tight shooting angle. Thanks for the reliable critique, it’s appreciated, as you know.
The shot, in terms of what’s in it, is pretty-much... (show quote)

Wow, I missed another one of your subtle, enriching touches, the color of the shoe on the oily floor. You have created so many of these barely-noticeable touches that contribute to our subconscious acceptance of the reality of the scene.

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Nov 4, 2019 09:48:26   #
Jim-Pops Loc: Granbury, Texas
 
magnetoman wrote:
Thank you Jim, high praise indeed! You’ve hit on some of the aspects I spent quite a bit a pp time on. She was the perfect model for my liking - characterful, relaxed and easy to work with, totally professional, and with a good wardrobe, so we got her in several outfits. Being an old biker, this was my favourite. I’d be interested to see your liquify result, it so often happens that a facial expression doesn’t quite match the look we’re after. Please feel free to post it here.


I didn't think my pp on her mouth was any better than the shot taken just different so I tossed it.
Again your picture is outstanding. I will forward the link to a friend that is setting up some workshops in my area.
We have a very old electrical transfer station/building here in town that I think could be used in the way your workshop did. Need to get the right girl and clothing to set the mood.

Love to see more of your shots taken during the workshop.
Jim

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Nov 4, 2019 11:58:23   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 
I know we’re supposed to focus on the photographic process but my mind keeps wandering to the drilling part . . .

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Nov 4, 2019 13:10:49   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
raymondh wrote:
I know we’re supposed to focus on the photographic process but my mind keeps wandering to the drilling part . . .


Yeah, that’s the Achilles heel of this image - you can tell an engineer didn’t set it up! I did consider photoshopping something more likely. Many thanks got keeping me on my toes - must go the extra mile!

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Nov 4, 2019 13:32:20   #
Jim-Pops Loc: Granbury, Texas
 
magnetoman wrote:
Yeah, that’s the Achilles heel of this image - you can tell an engineer didn’t set it up! I did consider photoshopping something more likely. Many thanks got keeping me on my toes - must go the extra mile!


Stop it! There is nothing, NOTHING, wrong with this photograph. It's perfect, period.

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Nov 4, 2019 13:39:47   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
I thought the strange drill setup was part of the "ambiance" of the shot.

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Nov 4, 2019 16:11:36   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
Jim-Pops wrote:
Stop it! There is nothing, NOTHING, wrong with this photograph. It's perfect, period.


I guess we both know that’s actually rather unlikely, but nice of you to say so Jim.

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Nov 4, 2019 16:14:06   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
[quote=Jim-Pops]Stop it! There is nothing, NOTHING, wrong with this photograph. It's perfect, period.[/quote

Flippin’ iPad! Double posts.

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