Sark17 wrote:
Hello! I am new to shooting RAW and am getting more confused by the day. I have a professional photographer friend who tells me I HAVE to shoot in raw on an upcoming trip to Africa (I leave Friday!) So I started shooting raw to practice using my dogs. I figured it would be fairly straight forward - I was very wrong. I use a Canon EOS R with various lenses.
In the first screen shot you can see the JPG (right) compared to the RAW photo (left). The Raw photo is super grainy. The JPG is fine. I didn't edit any of these or even try for any good composition, just wanted to practice working with RAW and getting them off of my card - which has also proven to be complicated.
So, my questions - 1) why are my RAW photos much more grainy than JPG? I realize ISO is a bit high in this specific photo, but even when it's not at all, I get the same result. 2) what is the most straightforward way to get to get a raw file off of an SD card and actually be able to do anything with it on a Mac? Lastly, I am probably just going to shoot Large JPG to save myself the panic of ruining something trying to use RAW if I can't figure this out...
I am currently using a DNG converter to get them to Lightroom, then I am not totally sure what to do with them after that, I couldn't even figure out how to save it to post it here as an example as I did with the JPEG.
Thank you so much in advance for any tips/tricks you are willing to lend - I am pretty confused!
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Bear with me... I'm going to try to make this understandable:
Answer to your first question:
As others have said, the noise difference you show here is due to the fact that the raw file has not had any noise reduction applied to it. By definition, a raw file is just unprocessed, digitized data from the analog sensor, plus a preview JPEG processed in the camera, plus an EXIF metadata table.
The digitized data in a raw file is not an image at all. It must be processed into a bitmap (array or grid) of pixels in reference to a specific camera profile, then adjusted to taste (either with camera menu settings or computer software such as Lightroom) and saved in some image file format (TIFF, JPEG, PSD...). JPEGs contain a small sample of the raw data, usually processed to look "normal".
When a JPEG is processed in the camera, the camera menu setting affects the degree of NR applied to the JPEG. ISO 1600 is four full f/stops under the base ISO of 100. At base ISO, you get the widest dynamic (tonal) range available from the camera — it contains the least noise, with the most color. In fact, a raw file can record 12 to 15 stops — a LOT more tones than a monitor can display or a printer can print! But a JPEG is limited to less than half of that range, so quite a bit of information is discarded when raw data is processed to an image.
The sensor in your camera is rather densely populated (30.3 MP), so it won't have the best full frame low light performance you can get — which would be from a *lower* resolution camera with *bigger* sensor elements on the *same size sensor*.
THAT's because, for a given size sensor, the more MP, the smaller the color-filtered, light-sensitive sensor elements have to be. The smaller the sensor elements used, the fewer photons of light each sensel can absorb and convert to electron voltage. The weaker that voltage, the lower the signal-to-noise ratio.
Setting a high ISO may amplify the voltage going into the analog to digital converter FROM the sensor, along with all the random noise the sensor records from background electromagnetic radiation (stars, etc.).
Raising ISO above base is essentially a form of underexposure. When you underexpose, you record fewer tonal values that can be processed into an image. The image is processed from a more limited portion of the recorded tonal range (raw files can contain 12 to 15 stops of dynamic range, depending on the camera design). So it's including more of the noise anyway. Prints and JPEGs can display around 5.5 to 6 stops of dynamic range. Using more of the tones digitized from the weaker signals recorded by the sensor will include more background noise. Eventually it becomes visible. You can get rid of some of it in post-processing.
It's like watching an old analog TV was before 2009. The farther from the broadcast station, the more "snow" (noise) we saw in the picture. The AM radio signal used for the picture was so weak that the TV had to amplify it to display it, and it amplified all the random noise in the background along with it.
Answer to your second question:
In LR Classic:
Preferences —> General —> Show import dialog when a memory card is detected. This will allow LR to control the import process. In order for that to work, consider also:
File —> Auto Import —> Enable Auto Import (must first create and/or select a Watched Folder for it, using the Auto Import Settings dialog).
Preferences —> General —> Treat JPEG files next to raw files as separate photos. (an option) LR defaults to hiding or ignoring JPEGs when raw files are found.
The Mac comes configured to open Photos when you connect a card reader with a DCIM folder on it. You may have to go into Photos and adjust its Preferences to keep it from annoying you.
Another option you can use, should you wish to control the import location of your files (so you can name the folders yourself, and access files easily from multiple applications), is to use the
Image Capture application. It can create folders, import files from digital cameras, and run scanners with a simple interface. Go here for guidance on it:
https://support.apple.com/guide/image-capture/transfer-images-imgcp1003/macAs for Lightroom, well, there are TWO Lightrooms (Lightroom Classic CC and Lightroom CC). Most of us on UHH use Classic, which is the original, professional desktop photo management tool. The new Lightroom CC is a mobile app that works through the Adobe Cloud and lets you share images among phones, tablets, and computers. I do all my image manipulation on my iMac, with a calibrated and profiled monitor, so I have no use for the mobile version.
Getting files out of Lightroom Classic CC in a usable form involves a trip through the File —> Export dialog. You can do all sorts of things on export. Check it out. It's powerful.
Lr Classic CC also does NOTHING TO your original files. They remain intact. You can change your mind about processing in an infinite number of ways, without degrading an image, no matter what file format it is in. Lr saves only a set of instructions, and a small display "proxy" image. It renders raw (and other) files on Exports, Prints, creates a Book, and uploads to a Web gallery.
Julieanne Kost (an Adobe master trainer and software evangelist) is my favorite source of tutorials on Lightroom and Photoshop. Her site is
http://jkost.com — Check it out. I've attended some of her seminars, and once introduced her at a Digital Imaging Marketing Association meeting at a PMAI convention.
Lynda.com is another excellent site for training. The Creative Live channel on YouTube has some excellent tutorials, and YouTube in general is a wealth of information on all things photographic.
Good luck on the trip!