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Oct 10, 2019 13:47:28   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Great description, thanks Bill. No disagreement with any of that.

For years I avoided working with raw files because people said they need to be processed; they are not really image files; they look flat until you bring them to life; it will take a lot of time and skill to process them; when you open them you are just seeing a JPEG, so why bother?

I found in my direct experience that none of that is true, and I regret listening to it. I made a commitment to myself that of I could help others to avoid making that mistake, I would.

Conceptualizing raw files as "negatives" that need "development" may be useful to some people, but I also know that it scares people away from experimenting with raw files who could benefit from working with raw files, and it is, after all, just an abstraction.

Mike
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The "concept" is an intelligent comparison. RAW data has first to be developed, this will include adjusting WB and tone. It then needs converting to an Image File, so that PP can be carried out. In the latest software the transition from RAW data to an Image File is not always obvious, but you cannot edit RAW data directly.

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Oct 10, 2019 13:48:22   #
Imagemine Loc: St. Louis USA
 
The reason is so you can decide how your photos will look and not let the camera decide for you and your camera will keep more information to use in post processing. Remember once you start shooting in raw you'll wonder Y you didn't start sooner. This all comes from a Nikon shooter 😀

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Oct 10, 2019 14:05:59   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Delderby wrote:
The "concept" is an intelligent comparison. RAW data has first to be developed, this will include adjusting WB and tone. It then needs converting to an Image File, so that PP can be carried out. In the latest software the transition from RAW data to an Image File is not always obvious, but you cannot edit RAW data directly.


I just don't see any practical value to that. I don't do anything with raw files that I would call "developing." I am not sure why people find that way of looking at raw files so compelling, nor why there should be any controversy.

Yes, there is more editing latitude when working with raw files, of course.

Mike

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Oct 10, 2019 14:10:33   #
Nickaroo
 
Sark17 from Nickaroo, just try to have fun and relax. I do suggest that you shoot in RAW+JPEG FINE. You will have plenty of hours when you get back from your trip to learn Post-Processing of a RAW file. I often pull files up during the winter months and edit them at my pace. The only ones that I jump on right away are the ones that I have to get to the lab for printing. I suggest that you have your "Professional Friend" go over a few things with you on how to shoot manual and the other modes and when it is best to use them. Using Aperture or Shutter Priority modes are pretty simple. You sound intelligent and your main goal should be to build memories on this excursion. When you return home you can follow so many tutorials on how to process your shots. HAVE FUN AND JUST RELAX.

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Oct 10, 2019 17:37:48   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Photoguy120 wrote:
Ten bucks a month. What program is that?


FOUR Adobe Applications — Lightroom CC, Lightroom Classic CC, Photoshop CC, Adobe Bridge. Also included are Adobe Camera Raw (shared by both LRs and Photoshop and Bridge), and several other Apps I don't use.

If you rely on up-to-date systems and software, it is worth it, and actually a better deal than the old "packaged software" licensing scheme.

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Oct 10, 2019 23:12:28   #
nikonbrain Loc: ST. Petersburg Florida
 
Sark17 wrote:
Hello! I am new to shooting RAW and am getting more confused by the day. I have a professional photographer friend who tells me I HAVE to shoot in raw on an upcoming trip to Africa (I leave Friday!) So I started shooting raw to practice using my dogs. I figured it would be fairly straight forward - I was very wrong. I use a Canon EOS R with various lenses.

In the first screen shot you can see the JPG (right) compared to the RAW photo (left). The Raw photo is super grainy. The JPG is fine. I didn't edit any of these or even try for any good composition, just wanted to practice working with RAW and getting them off of my card - which has also proven to be complicated.

So, my questions - 1) why are my RAW photos much more grainy than JPG? I realize ISO is a bit high in this specific photo, but even when it's not at all, I get the same result. 2) what is the most straightforward way to get to get a raw file off of an SD card and actually be able to do anything with it on a Mac? Lastly, I am probably just going to shoot Large JPG to save myself the panic of ruining something trying to use RAW if I can't figure this out...

I am currently using a DNG converter to get them to Lightroom, then I am not totally sure what to do with them after that, I couldn't even figure out how to save it to post it here as an example as I did with the JPEG.

Thank you so much in advance for any tips/tricks you are willing to lend - I am pretty confused!
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O.k do not fret now , like others have said , shoot both in your menu choose raw and jpeg fine . If you have a choice in raw choose 14bit instead of 12bit ...more data and the ability to recover almost blown highlights .... use auto white balance because shooting raw allows you to change it later . Going to Africa is a one time experience do it justice plan your shot and watch your histogram, remember to take meter readings from bright areas , expose for the highlights. Some set their exposure compensation for a 1/2 to a full stop under exposed as a safety valve , you can easily open up shadows in raw . When you get back get a book called Adobe Camera Raw ... read it cover to cover I did first week I owned a digital camera .... you can find many training tutorials on raw processing , if you have any questions when you get back P.M. me I will always help I have shown many people how to work their images I print for a handful of photographers and work their images for them for the past ten years and my own for at least 15 ...Luminace landscape is one that has training , Lynda.com which is now Linkedln Learning combining 100% of Lynda.com's courses just look for raw training .... I may have a few I can give you ...good luck...always shoot at base ISO as much as you can your best dynamic range is there ...usually ISO 100 some are ISO 64 . use fill flash in closer scenes of people or indoors ...

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Oct 11, 2019 20:09:03   #
Mike1017
 
pick up more memory cards what camera are you using you really want to have raw photos but you should shoot jpeg on one of the memory cards and raw on the other and worry about post processing when you get home ... Just a thought if your have problems with grain don't get crazy with too high of ISO I do not know what camera you are using Mike

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