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Sep 14, 2019 08:15:59   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
The treasury spent a record 4+ trillion $. So who takes the blame for this extreme spending. While congress spends the money, therefore much of the blame falls on their shoulders. But the president, Trump, must shoulder part of the blame as well. We are spending our way to failure as a nation. We must pass a balanced budget law. As A Trump supporter, he is part of the problem. He or congress or both, must get our house in order or sooner or later we will fail.

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Sep 14, 2019 08:28:03   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
boberic wrote:
The treasury spent a record 4+ trillion $. So who takes the blame for this extreme spending. While congress spends the money, therefore much of the blame falls on their shoulders. But the president, Trump, must shoulder part of the blame as well. We are spending our way to failure as a nation. We must pass a balanced budget law. As A Trump supporter, he is part of the problem. He or congress or both, must get our house in order or sooner or later we will fail.



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Sep 14, 2019 08:44:15   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
boberic wrote:
The treasury spent a record 4+ trillion $. So who takes the blame for this extreme spending. While congress spends the money, therefore much of the blame falls on their shoulders. But the president, Trump, must shoulder part of the blame as well. We are spending our way to failure as a nation. We must pass a balanced budget law. As A Trump supporter, he is part of the problem. He or congress or both, must get our house in order or sooner or later we will fail.


Trump is the problem.

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Sep 14, 2019 08:56:34   #
JoAnneK01 Loc: Lahaina, Hawaii
 
Congress is the primary spender as they approve the spending of the money. The law has to be changed from automatically increasing the spending to keeping the money at the same level or less from the previous year. Any increases of spending on a program should require a v**e to approve the increase.

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Sep 14, 2019 09:02:25   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Trump is the problem.

Then how do you explain thev FACT tha t congress spends the money? ALL spending Must start in tht House. For one just try to get by your insane Trump Hatred

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Sep 14, 2019 09:08:52   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
boberic wrote:
Then how do you explain thev FACT tha t congress spends the money? ALL spending Must start in tht House. For one just try to get by your insane Trump Hatred


The Republicans party was once the party of fiscal responsibility. Under Trump, they no longer care.
They should get over their insane Trump loyalty, before the damage is irreparable.

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Sep 14, 2019 09:08:54   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
boberic wrote:
Then how do you explain thev FACT tha t congress spends the money? ALL spending Must start in tht House. For one just try to get by your insane Trump Hatred


The President has to sign or veto the spending bill.

Where does the buck stop?

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Sep 14, 2019 09:20:01   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Trump shares part-but not all of the blame. As I said there must be a balanced buget law.

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Sep 14, 2019 09:24:24   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
boberic wrote:
Trump shares part-but not all of the blame. As I said there must be a balanced buget law.


"On September 8, 2017, Trump signed a bill increasing the debt ceiling. Later that day, the debt exceeded $20 trillion for the first time in U.S. history. On February 9, 2018, Trump signed a bill suspending the debt ceiling until March 1, 2019. It was $22 trillion. In just two years,Trump has overseen the fastest dollar increase in the debt of any president.

Trump's Fiscal Year 2020 budget projects the debt would increase $5 trillion during his first term. That's as much as Obama added while fighting a recession. Trump has not fulfilled his campaign promise to cut the debt. Instead, he's done the opposite." Kimberly Amadeo

Time to be real and stop excusing Trump.

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Sep 14, 2019 09:30:39   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
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Sep 14, 2019 09:36:48   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"On September 8, 2017, Trump signed a bill increasing the debt ceiling. Later that day, the debt exceeded $20 trillion for the first time in U.S. history. On February 9, 2018, Trump signed a bill suspending the debt ceiling until March 1, 2019. It was $22 trillion. In just two years,Trump has overseen the fastest dollar increase in the debt of any president.

Trump's Fiscal Year 2020 budget projects the debt would increase $5 trillion during his first term. That's as much as Obama added while fighting a recession. Trump has not fulfilled his campaign promise to cut the debt. Instead, he's done the opposite." Kimberly Amadeo

Time to be real and stop excusing Trump.
"On September 8, 2017, Trump signed a bill in... (show quote)


What you are stating is a flat out falsehood, notice I did not say lie because it is quite possible that you don't know how wrong you are in making your statements. Do a little research and take a look at Obama's first term.

As far as Trump and deficit spending, much of the deficit spending is structural, in fact if people were actually pass a balanced budget amendment you would see significant cuts to entitlements including Social Security and Medicare, the two largest programs driving the deficits, you would also see immediate increases in taxing across the board.

Trump is no more responsible than Pelosi, it takes one to authorize the spending and the other to sign off on it.

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Sep 14, 2019 09:43:04   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
What you are stating is a flat out falsehood, notice I did not say lie because it is quite possible that you don't know how wrong you are in making your statements. Do a little research and take a look at Obama's first term.

As far as Trump and deficit spending, much of the deficit spending is structural, in fact if people were actually pass a balanced budget amendment you would see significant cuts to entitlements including Social Security and Medicare, the two largest programs driving the deficits, you would also see immediate increases in taxing across the board.

Trump is no more responsible than Pelosi, it takes one to authorize the spending and the other to sign off on it.
What you are stating is a flat out falsehood, noti... (show quote)


What specific statement in MY post is “wrong”?

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Sep 14, 2019 09:51:26   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
What specific statement in MY post is “wrong”?


That Trump has set record deficits, under Obama during his first term each of his deficits were over a Trillion dollars, two consecutive years alone when added together totaled over $2.7 trillion, my numbers come from the federal government website.

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Sep 14, 2019 09:57:09   #
jcboy3
 
boberic wrote:
Then how do you explain thev FACT tha t congress spends the money? ALL spending Must start in tht House. For one just try to get by your insane Trump Hatred


Spending doesn't start in the House. That's long been a misrepresentation.

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Sep 14, 2019 10:05:56   #
jcboy3
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
What you are stating is a flat out falsehood, notice I did not say lie because it is quite possible that you don't know how wrong you are in making your statements. Do a little research and take a look at Obama's first term.

As far as Trump and deficit spending, much of the deficit spending is structural, in fact if people were actually pass a balanced budget amendment you would see significant cuts to entitlements including Social Security and Medicare, the two largest programs driving the deficits, you would also see immediate increases in taxing across the board.

Trump is no more responsible than Pelosi, it takes one to authorize the spending and the other to sign off on it.
What you are stating is a flat out falsehood, noti... (show quote)


Social Security is still covered by Social Security taxes. Medicare is only partially covered. Defense spending is the biggest piece of the discretionary spending pie, and that would have to be cut drastically in order to balance the budget.

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