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Sep 10, 2019 13:05:04   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
The best thing would have been to be more aware of the background when taking the photo and repositioning yourself to shoot from a different angle. It also may have helped to use a different lens or use different lens aperture. If you absolutely had to shoot the car from this angle, have the owner move the car to a better location, with less background distractions, etc.

With only this image to work with...

While you can edit out the background... and artBob did a good job of it... in my opinion that sort of takes the subject out of context of the car show.

If it were me, I'd use several different techniques (hard to do very well on this very small version of the image, but below can give you some idea how it might be done)..

1. Eliminate some of the foreground and background objects (Photoshop clone tool).

2. Change the color of some background objects, especially what's seen through the car's windshield (Photoshop color replacement brush).

3. Blur down the background as might be seen if a larger lens aperture were used (Photoshop gaussian blur filter, and layer & masks).



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Sep 10, 2019 13:11:13   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
catchlight.. wrote:
It's fun when people who don't make a living at automotive journalism, suggest the strongest opinions.

I know it's meant well, but some of the suggestions are just plain silly... especially cloning and editing for two or more hours on one shot...

Hope the post isn't blown too far into oblivion with poor advise....


I think you may be misreading a bit.

I can't speak for others, but my suggestion was that this was an unrealistic goal for a photojournalist. If you're looking for a shot that emphasizes the form of the car without background, you would need to re-shoot. You can clone stamp your way out of most any distracting background, but it simply isn't worth the effort in this field (or many others).

And I stand by that "advise" [sic].

Andy

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Sep 10, 2019 14:27:08   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
artBob wrote:
This was done in Photoshop, using Selection tools and Cloning. I don't know if such tools are available to you in your software. Probably not to the degree of finesse you would need. It took about 1/2 hour. Thanks for the challenge.


Wow Bob.......A+. Good job....

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Sep 10, 2019 14:55:25   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
The OP wrote, "So my question is what, if any software can eliminate the distractions in the background (windshield area and across)...I would like to be able to edit out the distractions..."

The OP is inexperienced in post-processing. The replies have answered the original questions with demonstrations and information relating to the complexity of the task, as well as with suggestions for future (e.g. depth of field). Relatively speaking, this has been a most excellent topic
The OP wrote, i "So my question is what, if ... (show quote)


If you going to portraiture, then pick a back drop and go shoot.

For an event, stay true to the surroundings. If you need to edit to such a degree, discard the image and move on to another. Choices in apertures are basic.

I sometimes shoot several thousand images at just one event. If you spend more than 10 minutes editing, then you will not be effective. not to say he wants to be a journalist photographer.

The best advice is to work on composure as much as possible and forget things like cloning. Embrace the surroundings and accept that the scene contains many things, including people... that add to the story.

This is not criticism but fake blur back-round should be reserved for cell phones. Aperture will be a choice that could also include a sharp back round that includes detail.

look for a composure solution first and take more shots. Learn to discard bad images and move on.

Don't act like they just got back from Wallgreens and can't wait to see what the kodak did...


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Sep 10, 2019 15:03:19   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
AndyH wrote:
I think you may be misreading a bit.

I can't speak for others, but my suggestion was that this was an unrealistic goal for a photojournalist. If you're looking for a shot that emphasizes the form of the car without background, you would need to re-shoot. You can clone stamp your way out of most any distracting background, but it simply isn't worth the effort in this field (or many others).

And I stand by that "advise" [sic].

Andy


Absolutely agree and that was part my point.

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Sep 10, 2019 16:20:46   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
Mister H wrote:
This is a photo I took at the Concours of America in July. Taken with a Nikon D4300 using the 18-55mm kit zoom lens. Shot at ISO 100, 55mm, f5.6 and 1/250. It's a one off 1946 Fiat 1100C Spider by Carrozzeria Frua. So my question is what, if any software can eliminate the distractions in the background (windshield area and across. I know I can crop the left side to remove the taillight. As many of you know, cars shows can be a challenge in many ways and I'm still learning to use manual mode. I thought this was one of my better photos (composition wise) and would like to be able to edit out the distractions. I notice a lot of you use products such as Lightroom and wonder if any of these can be used for scenarios like this. I have iMac's Photos and Nikon software, but have not gotten far with that. Just don't want to buy something and find it doesn't do more that what I already have. I don't need to break the bank either. This is a hobby, said most of us after our last equipment purchase. LOL Feel free to critique the photo as well. It's how I will learn.
This is a photo I took at the Concours of America ... (show quote)


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Any image editor that allows you to make a selection so that you can blur it will work. Affinity Photo, ON1 Photo RAW, Luminar or Photoshop Elements would be my suggestions. All are available for a Mac and will do the job. Gimp is free and would do it but I don't know if Gimp is available for Mac.

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Sep 10, 2019 20:09:11   #
Mister H Loc: Michigan
 
artBob wrote:
This was done in Photoshop, using Selection tools and Cloning. I don't know if such tools are available to you in your software. Probably not to the degree of finesse you would need. It took about 1/2 hour. Thanks for the challenge.


Sorry I forgot to set up download for everybody. Thanks for taking the time to show what can be dine with Photoshop and I like it.

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Sep 10, 2019 20:10:21   #
Mister H Loc: Michigan
 
Harvey wrote:
I have been using PS for close to 20 yrs - I find the $10 a month well worth it - keeps me updated and I don't have to look for my DVDs when I change computers -LOL


Sorry I forgot to set up download for everybody. I might go that route. It looks to do what I want and the price is good. Thank you.

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Sep 10, 2019 20:12:05   #
Mister H Loc: Michigan
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Harvey's suggested steps for the left side can be done with the clone tool. Options for the rest range from a total replacement of background (select the car, cut/paste it to new image) to lessening the background's impact with selective blur and de-saturation. The area directly behind the windshield will be the biggest challenge.

None of the solutions is ultra-simple; however, there is a post-processing section of UHH with many resources, in addition to the folks who will reply to your thread here.
PP Forum:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-116-1.html

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Harvey's suggested steps for the left side can be ... (show quote)


Sorry I forgot to set up download for everybody. Nicely done and I will check the link. Thank you.

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Sep 10, 2019 20:12:55   #
Mister H Loc: Michigan
 
mcmama wrote:
LIIIIIIINDA!



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Sep 10, 2019 20:14:01   #
Mister H Loc: Michigan
 
Harvey wrote:
This is a good job of separating the subject from the scene - I prefer to keep the image showing the event.
This is a simple frame using canvas size - enlarged .20 colored white - enlarged frame .15 colored green enlarged .25 colored white - I like to match the dark color to a color from the photo.


I do like this idea and keeping some of the event theme in place.

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Sep 10, 2019 20:15:56   #
Mister H Loc: Michigan
 
Grahame wrote:
It really depends upon how much you want to learn and how much time you want too spend improving/putting things right in post.

As far as the image shot goes, if you learn from this one in future you could be more selective choosing an aperture that will blur the background whilst keeping the car acceptably sharp and also avoid distractions in the frame. This is not a criticism, we have all done it!

As for software to 'improve' the image and do what you wish I suspect PS Elements will give you all the tools necessary. For the example below, of how I would tackle it, the software would need the ability to work with layers and masks, gradients and blur filters. Simply, I roughly selected the car, blurred the image with a gausian blur with a gradient on it, then simply tidied up the mask. In addition a slight lift of shadows under the rear, in total about 10 minutes work.

Looking at it uploaded, I should have spent another 10 seconds de-blurring the top half of the steering wheel
It really depends upon how much you want to learn ... (show quote)


Sorry I forgot to set up download for everybody. Very well done and helpful in how and what to tackle for the desired results. Thank you.

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Sep 10, 2019 20:16:40   #
Mister H Loc: Michigan
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Try one of these online services.

https://clippingmagic.com/
https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/19/18148020/remove-bg-ai-background-foreground-without-photoshop
https://www142.lunapic.com/editor/?action=transparent
http://editphotosforfree.com/photoapps/remove-background-from-image-online/


Sorry I forgot to set up download for everybody. Thank you, I will.

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Sep 10, 2019 20:18:24   #
Mister H Loc: Michigan
 
catchlight.. wrote:
I am an editor, journalist and automotive photographer for several magazines...

Photoshop is a good choice if you were to attempt to remove the perceived distractions ... but I would not waste my time... always leave things natural.

You don't want to remove the surrounding distractions in a show setting, In fact adding people to the scene will make the image even more interesting. Spend more time composing the existing scene and try several angles. shoot at least a dozen shots at each angle with different aperture settings

If you want to get detail from the shadows or do more , you can edit with a program like Lightroom or Photoshop...
I am an editor, journalist and automotive photogra... (show quote)


Sorry I forgot to set up download for everybody. Thank you for adding to the ways to not only looking at the shot, but how to keep for overdoing it.

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Sep 10, 2019 20:19:38   #
Mister H Loc: Michigan
 
CatMarley wrote:
With this picture it is virtually impossible because of the windshield contains all the colorful objects. You can copy grass to cover all the cars etc, but the windshield - NO!


Sorry I forgot to set up download for everybody. Thus the challenge. Thank you.

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