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Sep 10, 2019 09:40:09   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Using layers and layer masks in PS Elements you can convert the photo to B&W and then paint the color back in on the car. I’ve done this and it works quite well. Check this one out. https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-607492-1.html

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Sep 10, 2019 10:03:05   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
AndyH wrote:
Nice job, Bob. But a little too obvious on the artifacts of clone stamping if the OP hopes to shoot for professional collecting publications.

I’d estimate 2-3 hours at high magnification to clean the image to a professional standard. If you get the chance to shoot similar images in the future, I’d change the distance, use a larger aperture and longer focal length, and try to achieve a more natural background separation.

Andy


I agree.

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Sep 10, 2019 10:21:38   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
Mister H wrote:
This is a photo I took at the Concours of America in July. Taken with a Nikon D4300 using the 18-55mm kit zoom lens. Shot at ISO 100, 55mm, f5.6 and 1/250. It's a one off 1946 Fiat 1100C Spider by Carrozzeria Frua. So my question is what, if any software can eliminate the distractions in the background (windshield area and across. I know I can crop the left side to remove the taillight. As many of you know, cars shows can be a challenge in many ways and I'm still learning to use manual mode. I thought this was one of my better photos (composition wise) and would like to be able to edit out the distractions. I notice a lot of you use products such as Lightroom and wonder if any of these can be used for scenarios like this. I have iMac's Photos and Nikon software, but have not gotten far with that. Just don't want to buy something and find it doesn't do more that what I already have. I don't need to break the bank either. This is a hobby, said most of us after our last equipment purchase. LOL Feel free to critique the photo as well. It's how I will learn.
This is a photo I took at the Concours of America ... (show quote)


With this picture it is virtually impossible because of the windshield contains all the colorful objects. You can copy grass to cover all the cars etc, but the windshield - NO!

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Sep 10, 2019 10:31:44   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Harvey's suggested steps for the left side can be done with the clone tool. Options for the rest range from a total replacement of background (select the car, cut/paste it to new image) to lessening the background's impact with selective blur and de-saturation. The area directly behind the windshield will be the biggest challenge.

None of the solutions is ultra-simple; however, there is a post-processing section of UHH with many resources, in addition to the folks who will reply to your thread here.
PP Forum:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-116-1.html

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So nice to "see" you again, Linda!!
Mark

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Sep 10, 2019 11:27:24   #
saxman71 Loc: Wenatchee
 
Another idea that is too late for this photo is to take a couple shots of an uncluttered background while you are doing your car shoot. You can then use a mask to "paint" the car onto your uncluttered background. Even this process is time consuming and the car windshield might still be challenging.

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Sep 10, 2019 11:39:28   #
hammond
 
AndyH wrote:
... in the future, I’d change the distance, use a larger aperture and longer focal length, and try to achieve a more natural background separation.
Andy


Great point, use this as a learning experience and next time try using a wider aperture setting to wash out the background a bit more. A faster lens will give you a shallower depth of field, which will blur out objects in the foreground and background.

To this point, this is one of the reasons people spend $1k+ on fast prime lenses - smooth bokeh and a shallow depth of field... (am currently saving up for the Nikkor 105mm f1.4).

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Sep 10, 2019 12:00:11   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
It's fun when people who don't make a living at automotive journalism, suggest the strongest opinions.

I know it's meant well, but some of the suggestions are just plain silly... especially cloning and editing for two or more hours on one shot...

Hope the post isn't blown too far into oblivion with poor advise....

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Sep 10, 2019 12:06:36   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
The first thing I was taught: always check the background...
Great little car though..

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Sep 10, 2019 12:08:52   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
artBob wrote:
This was done in Photoshop, using Selection tools and Cloning. I don't know if such tools are available to you in your software. Probably not to the degree of finesse you would need. It took about 1/2 hour. Thanks for the challenge.


Wow! Impressive. I wouldn't know how to do the windshield part but the rest I could have done. How did you do the windscreen?

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Sep 10, 2019 12:10:12   #
pila
 
artBob wrote:
This was done in Photoshop, using Selection tools and Cloning. I don't know if such tools are available to you in your software. Probably not to the degree of finesse you would need. It took about 1/2 hour. Thanks for the challenge.


Wow

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Sep 10, 2019 12:16:16   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
catchlight.. wrote:
... some of the suggestions are just plain silly, especially cloning and editing for two or more hours on one shot...
The OP wrote, "So my question is what, if any software can eliminate the distractions in the background (windshield area and across)...I would like to be able to edit out the distractions..."

The OP is inexperienced in post-processing. The replies have answered the original questions with demonstrations and information relating to the complexity of the task, as well as with suggestions for future (e.g. depth of field). Relatively speaking, this has been a most excellent topic

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Sep 10, 2019 12:37:23   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
artBob wrote:
This was done in Photoshop, using Selection tools and Cloning. I don't know if such tools are available to you in your software. Probably not to the degree of finesse you would need. It took about 1/2 hour. Thanks for the challenge.


Good work, Bob! Especially the windshield area...

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Sep 10, 2019 12:38:09   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
The OP wrote, "So my question is what, if any software can eliminate the distractions in the background (windshield area and across)...I would like to be able to edit out the distractions..."

The OP is inexperienced in post-processing. The replies have answered the original questions with demonstrations and information relating to the complexity of the task, as well as with suggestions for future (e.g. depth of field). Relatively speaking, this has been a most excellent topic
The OP wrote, i "So my question is what, if ... (show quote)



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Sep 10, 2019 12:56:16   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
CatMarley wrote:
With this picture it is virtually impossible because of the windshield contains all the colorful objects. You can copy grass to cover all the cars etc, but the windshield - NO!

Actually, you can, if you know something about what glass does to color. My (fairly) quick and dirty fix: https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2019/9/9/t1-710520-csr.jpg

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Sep 10, 2019 13:01:49   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
Wow! Impressive. I wouldn't know how to do the windshield part but the rest I could have done. How did you do the windscreen?


I selected the windshield and quarter glass, then cloned in ground from same distance, then lowered intensity and tone of the areas. It's a pain, but I wanted to see if I could do it. Even so, it needs more refinement, as AndyH suggested in a previous post.

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