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Sep 9, 2019 17:47:04   #
Mister H (a regular here)
 
This is a photo I took at the Concours of America in July. Taken with a Nikon D4300 using the 18-55mm kit zoom lens. Shot at ISO 100, 55mm, f5.6 and 1/250. It's a one off 1946 Fiat 1100C Spider by Carrozzeria Frua. So my question is what, if any software can eliminate the distractions in the background (windshield area and across. I know I can crop the left side to remove the taillight. As many of you know, cars shows can be a challenge in many ways and I'm still learning to use manual mode. I thought this was one of my better photos (composition wise) and would like to be able to edit out the distractions. I notice a lot of you use products such as Lightroom and wonder if any of these can be used for scenarios like this. I have iMac's Photos and Nikon software, but have not gotten far with that. Just don't want to buy something and find it doesn't do more that what I already have. I don't need to break the bank either. This is a hobby, said most of us after our last equipment purchase. LOL Feel free to critique the photo as well. It's how I will learn.



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Sep 9, 2019 17:58:50   #
Harvey (a regular here)
 
Mister H wrote:
This is a photo I took at the Concours of America in July. Taken with a Nikon D4300 using the 18-55mm kit zoom lens. Shot at ISO 100, 55mm, f5.6 and 1/250. It's a one off 1946 Fiat 1100C Spider by Carrozzeria Frua. So my question is what, if any software can eliminate the distractions in the background (windshield area and across. I know I can crop the left side to remove the taillight. As many of you know, cars shows can be a challenge in many ways and I'm still learning to use manual mode. I thought this was one of my better photos (composition wise) and would like to be able to edit out the distractions. I notice a lot of you use products such as Lightroom and wonder if any of these can be used for scenarios like this. I have iMac's Photos and Nikon software, but have not gotten far with that. Just don't want to buy something and find it doesn't do more that what I already have. I don't need to break the bank either. This is a hobby, said most of us after our last equipment purchase. LOL Feel free to critique the photo as well. It's how I will learn.
This is a photo I took at the Concours of America ... (show quote)


My choice would be #1 select an area a little larger than the mirror >copy > past > move to cover the mirror .>merge layer #2 repeat process to cover tail light.

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Sep 9, 2019 18:24:15   #
Linda From Maine (a regular here)
 
Harvey's suggested steps for the left side can be done with the clone tool. Options for the rest range from a total replacement of background (select the car, cut/paste it to new image) to lessening the background's impact with selective blur and de-saturation. The area directly behind the windshield will be the biggest challenge.

None of the solutions is ultra-simple; however, there is a post-processing section of UHH with many resources, in addition to the folks who will reply to your thread here.
PP Forum:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-116-1.html

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CLONE TOOL
CLONE TOOL...

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Sep 9, 2019 19:06:25   #
mcmama (a regular here)
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Harvey's suggested steps can be done with the clone tool, which is what I used on the area on left side.

For background, I selectively de-saturated and blurred (a quick edit done with touch pad on my Chromebook - for demo only To successfully blur what you see through the windshield requires more control with a mouse.) Does any of your software have the ability to selectively work on one area only? If not, there are inexpensive options.

Another idea is to select just the car and copy/paste it to an entirely new background, but that may be more than you wish to tackle as "clean" selections take some practice and experience to look good + you have additional challenges with that darned windshield.

Please note there is a post-processing section of UHH with many resources:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-116-1.html

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Harvey's suggested steps can be done with the b c... (show quote)



LIIIIIIINDA!

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Sep 9, 2019 19:06:44   #
bleirer (a regular here)
 
I can tell you how to do it in Photoshop, which is $10 each month, and I'm sure Photoshop Elements about $90 one time purchase could do it. I'm not familiar with your software, but wouldn't be surprised if there was a clone tool.

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Sep 9, 2019 19:19:53   #
Harvey (a regular here)
 
bleirer wrote:
I can tell you how to do it in Photoshop, which is $10 each month, and I'm sure Photoshop Elements about $90 one time purchase could do it. I'm not familiar with your software, but wouldn't be surprised if there was a clone tool.


I have been using PS for close to 20 yrs - I find the $10 a month well worth it - keeps me updated and I don't have to look for my DVDs when I change computers -LOL

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Sep 9, 2019 19:44:20   #
artBob (a regular here)
 
This was done in Photoshop, using Selection tools and Cloning. I don't know if such tools are available to you in your software. Probably not to the degree of finesse you would need. It took about 1/2 hour. Thanks for the challenge.


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Sep 9, 2019 19:56:08   #
Harvey (a regular here)
 
artBob wrote:
This was done in Photoshop, using Selection tools and Cloning. I don't know if such tools are available to you in your software. Probably not to the degree of finesse you would need. It took about 1/2 hour. Thanks for the challenge.


This is a good job of separating the subject from the scene - I prefer to keep the image showing the event.
This is a simple frame using canvas size - enlarged .20 colored white - enlarged frame .15 colored green enlarged .25 colored white - I like to match the dark color to a color from the photo.


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Sep 9, 2019 20:53:54   #
SonyA580
 
artBob wrote:
This was done in Photoshop, using Selection tools and Cloning. I don't know if such tools are available to you in your software. Probably not to the degree of finesse you would need. It took about 1/2 hour. Thanks for the challenge.


Very nice job!

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Sep 9, 2019 22:16:45   #
AndyH (a regular here)
 
artBob wrote:
This was done in Photoshop, using Selection tools and Cloning. I don't know if such tools are available to you in your software. Probably not to the degree of finesse you would need. It took about 1/2 hour. Thanks for the challenge.


Nice job, Bob. But a little too obvious on the artifacts of clone stamping if the OP hopes to shoot for professional collecting publications.

I’d estimate 2-3 hours at high magnification to clean the image to a professional standard. If you get the chance to shoot similar images in the future, I’d change the distance, use a larger aperture and longer focal length, and try to achieve a more natural background separation.

Andy

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Sep 9, 2019 23:18:37   #
Grahame
 
Mister H wrote:
This is a photo I took at the Concours of America in July. Taken with a Nikon D4300 using the 18-55mm kit zoom lens. Shot at ISO 100, 55mm, f5.6 and 1/250. It's a one off 1946 Fiat 1100C Spider by Carrozzeria Frua. So my question is what, if any software can eliminate the distractions in the background (windshield area and across. I know I can crop the left side to remove the taillight. As many of you know, cars shows can be a challenge in many ways and I'm still learning to use manual mode. I thought this was one of my better photos (composition wise) and would like to be able to edit out the distractions. I notice a lot of you use products such as Lightroom and wonder if any of these can be used for scenarios like this.:
This is a photo I took at the Concours of America ... (show quote)


It really depends upon how much you want to learn and how much time you want too spend improving/putting things right in post.

As far as the image shot goes, if you learn from this one in future you could be more selective choosing an aperture that will blur the background whilst keeping the car acceptably sharp and also avoid distractions in the frame. This is not a criticism, we have all done it!

As for software to 'improve' the image and do what you wish I suspect PS Elements will give you all the tools necessary. For the example below, of how I would tackle it, the software would need the ability to work with layers and masks, gradients and blur filters. Simply, I roughly selected the car, blurred the image with a gausian blur with a gradient on it, then simply tidied up the mask. In addition a slight lift of shadows under the rear, in total about 10 minutes work.

Looking at it uploaded, I should have spent another 10 seconds de-blurring the top half of the steering wheel


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Sep 9, 2019 23:55:26   #
Harry0 (a regular here)
 
artBob wrote:
This was done in Photoshop, using Selection tools and Cloning. I don't know if such tools are available to you in your software. Probably not to the degree of finesse you would need. It took about 1/2 hour. Thanks for the challenge.


I got nothing to do with anything in this situation.
But thanks for the work you did- that was a nice shot.

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Sep 10, 2019 08:13:16   #
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Sep 10, 2019 08:14:12   #
jerryc41 (a regular here)
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
None of the solutions is ultra-simple; however, there is a post-processing section of UHH with many resources, in addition to the folks who will reply to your thread here.
PP Forum:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-116-1.html

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You're back!

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Sep 10, 2019 09:10:10   #
catchlight.. (a regular here)
 
Mister H wrote:
This is a photo I took at the Concours of America in July. Taken with a Nikon D4300 using the 18-55mm kit zoom lens. Shot at ISO 100, 55mm, f5.6 and 1/250. It's a one off 1946 Fiat 1100C Spider by Carrozzeria Frua. So my question is what, if any software can eliminate the distractions in the background (windshield area and across. I know I can crop the left side to remove the taillight. As many of you know, cars shows can be a challenge in many ways and I'm still learning to use manual mode. I thought this was one of my better photos (composition wise) and would like to be able to edit out the distractions. I notice a lot of you use products such as Lightroom and wonder if any of these can be used for scenarios like this. I have iMac's Photos and Nikon software, but have not gotten far with that. Just don't want to buy something and find it doesn't do more that what I already have. I don't need to break the bank either. This is a hobby, said most of us after our last equipment purchase. LOL Feel free to critique the photo as well. It's how I will learn.
This is a photo I took at the Concours of America ... (show quote)


I am an editor, journalist and automotive photographer for several magazines...

Photoshop is a good choice if you were to attempt to remove the perceived distractions ... but I would not waste my time... always leave things natural.

You don't want to remove the surrounding distractions in a show setting, In fact adding people to the scene will make the image even more interesting. Spend more time composing the existing scene and try several angles. shoot at least a dozen shots at each angle with different aperture settings

If you want to get detail from the shadows or do more , you can edit with a program like Lightroom or Photoshop...

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