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Aug 21, 2019 23:21:19   #
farwest Loc: Utah
 
I bought some Gator Board and used spray on adhesive which seemed to work pretty good except sometimes there is little clumps of glue that leave a very small bump on the picture. I'm trying to decide if it is worth it to mount my pictures on Gator Board I haven't come to a definite decision yet. Looking at cost factors but those metal prints sure do look good and they look like they will last a long time. Wondering what other Hoggers have came up with mounting their pictures.

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Aug 21, 2019 23:37:47   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Just one thing....

I just checked it.

These boards are not acid free so the print(s) may deteriorate after a time.

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Aug 21, 2019 23:41:31   #
ahudina Loc: Browns Point, WA
 
farwest wrote:
I bought some Gator Board and used spray on adhesive which seemed to work pretty good except sometimes there is little clumps of glue that leave a very small bump on the picture. I'm trying to decide if it is worth it to mount my pictures on Gator Board I haven't come to a definite decision yet. Looking at cost factors but those metal prints sure do look good and they look like they will last a long time. Wondering what other Hoggers have came up with mounting their pictures.

Thanks


I have multiple prints up to 40” x 24” that were commercially mounted on gator board over 35 years ago and the mounting is as good today as when done originally. They were done by a commercial photo outlet in Seattle (unfortunately they are no longer around but the prints are). Best of luck.

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Aug 22, 2019 00:11:51   #
Bill P
 
If you are going to mount something archivally, this violates all that is sacred, but to mount of any of the foam board products is best done with dry mount tissue in a press.

If you wish to meet standards for archivabiity, you use small linen hinges at the top and that's it.

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Aug 22, 2019 06:15:12   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
farwest wrote:
I bought some Gator Board and used spray on adhesive which seemed to work pretty good except sometimes there is little clumps of glue that leave a very small bump on the picture. I'm trying to decide if it is worth it to mount my pictures on Gator Board I haven't come to a definite decision yet. Looking at cost factors but those metal prints sure do look good and they look like they will last a long time. Wondering what other Hoggers have came up with mounting their pictures.

Thanks


Spray adhesive is fine. But dry mount tissue is better, and you can get a dry mount tissue that has a sheet of archival tissue paper sandwiched in between two sheets of adhesive paper - making the assembly archival.

The problem is if you are using resin-coated photographic prints, the temperature and time need to melt the dry mount tissue will also melt the photo emulsion. I used to mount photo prints on gator board, but now only mount inkjet prints with this method.

I haven't tried the Seal/Beinfang "buffered" product, but because it is low temp it has a better chance of not melting the typical wet process photo prints printed on Fuji or Kodak paper that you get from print labs these days.

https://www.freestylephoto.biz/1812114-Seal-Bienfang-Buffermount-Dry-Mount-Tissue-11x14-100-sheets

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Aug 22, 2019 08:43:48   #
Bike guy Loc: Atlanta
 
I thought this was going to refer to the Florida Miami game this weekend.
Now I know what gatorboard is.

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Aug 22, 2019 10:01:44   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
I do dry mount my prints (sometimes), but I do not use Gator board. I purchase an acid-free 3/8" foamcore from my frame supplier. It comes in both white and black, and I actually prefer the black. I am always torn between mounting or not. In my house things deteriorate quickly because of the heat. If I dry mount, I run the risk of air pockets popping up eventually. If I don't, the paper tends to stretch and pull over time. I do use the buffered poly tissue for dry mounting. It's pretty forgiving. I've tried spray mounts and cannot get a good mount with it. I find it takes more than two hands, and I've never been able to get it perfectly straight and bubble-free. My friend who runs the photo department at the race track uses board that has adhesive pre-applied and he runs it through a mechanical press. Works great on his 16x20's.

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Aug 22, 2019 13:31:10   #
Bill P
 
But dry mount tissue is better, and you can get a dry mount tissue that has a sheet of archival tissue paper sandwiched in between two sheets of adhesive paper - making the assembly archival.

It may be in reality archival, but it will not meet standards held by the finest museums. In the museum world, the only things that are archival are things that are completely reversable. Dry mount tissue, spray glue, etc. need not apply.

But how many of us have things that have a prayer of being added to a museum's permanent collection?

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Aug 22, 2019 15:35:30   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Bill P wrote:
But dry mount tissue is better, and you can get a dry mount tissue that has a sheet of archival tissue paper sandwiched in between two sheets of adhesive paper - making the assembly archival.

It may be in reality archival, but it will not meet standards held by the finest museums. In the museum world, the only things that are archival are things that are completely reversable. Dry mount tissue, spray glue, etc. need not apply.

But how many of us have things that have a prayer of being added to a museum's permanent collection?
But dry mount tissue is better, and you can get a ... (show quote)


Buffered to neutral pH is not archival. Many products out there are promoted as archival but in fact are buffered. Truly acid and lignin free products are made of cotton or linen, and adhesives are usually water-activated rice starch.

FWIW - Ansel Adams dry mounted a lot of his final, one of a kind prints . . .

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Aug 22, 2019 15:38:25   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Gene51 wrote:
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Aug 22, 2019 16:25:53   #
Bill P
 
II'll not argue that all in all, over time dry mounted looks best.

But I wonder, was AA all that considered about archivability?

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Aug 23, 2019 00:43:25   #
farwest Loc: Utah
 
Is dry mounting photo's beyond the scope of the average photographer? What equipment do you need and what is the best resource to use to learn how to do it?

Thanks

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Aug 23, 2019 14:17:48   #
Bill P
 
Dry mounting isn't beyond the reach of most photographers. It isn't if you are the kind of person that can do something with a degree of precision. You will, however, need some bucks. Dry mount tissue, silicone coated paper, a tacking iron and a dry mount press are all you need. But you may be able to find a press used, as darkrooms are going away. Used ones should be cheaper, and watch for framing shops going out of business, too.

It's not hard, but it can be tedious, and requires a fair amount of attention to detail.

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Aug 23, 2019 15:15:55   #
farwest Loc: Utah
 
Thank you I appreciate your input.

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Aug 23, 2019 16:15:30   #
pedroho
 
There is pre-glued gator board available

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