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Aug 17, 2019 19:57:47   #
bgrn Loc: Pleasant Grove UT
 
Still trying to see what I can do with some older jpg's from before I was familiar with my camera and the digital age, and learning and experimenting with LR. Had to push the limits in Post to bring these back to life but I am learning what the extremes will do. Going back has also shown me how much I have learned over the last few years in not having to push the PP as much as I did with these.


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Aug 17, 2019 20:00:49   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Great set!

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Aug 17, 2019 20:06:20   #
Glenn Reiner Loc: Sacramento CA
 
Your scenes are great but pics may be over processed

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Aug 17, 2019 20:21:15   #
bgrn Loc: Pleasant Grove UT
 
Glenn Reiner wrote:
Your scenes are great but pics may be over processed


thanks, I would say "over processed" is an understatement, lol. I didn't have much to work with to start with, with poor settings. I'm just learning more in post.

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Aug 17, 2019 21:09:44   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
bgrn wrote:
Still trying to see what I can do with some older jpg's from before I was familiar with my camera and the digital age, and learning and experimenting with LR. Had to push the limits in Post to bring these back to life but I am learning what the extremes will do. Going back has also shown me how much I have learned over the last few years in not having to push the PP as much as I did with these.


For the first and last, turn it down a bit. The others are really nice.

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Aug 17, 2019 21:28:55   #
UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT
 
Very nice set!

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Aug 17, 2019 21:34:37   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
For the first and last, turn it down a bit. The others are really nice.


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Aug 17, 2019 21:34:51   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
I like all of them. Very nice! Where are the falls photos from?

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Aug 17, 2019 21:36:51   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
The ones that strike me the most, for composition and contrast that are not lost in distracting color saturation, are nos. 3, 4, 5. Strong photos.

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Aug 17, 2019 21:56:29   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
They are over-processed but I have to say I like them.

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Aug 17, 2019 22:09:42   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Hi,

First, you have a good eye and those are nice photos with a lot of potential.

Do you want some constructive feedback?

I hope so, because your photos are nice enough they deserve some more attention.

Is your computer monitor calibrated? I suspect not because all your images are too dark and have color shifts. These things often happen because most computer monitors are way too bright for proper photo post-processing and don't render color very accurately either. An overly bright monitor causes people to adjust their images too dark... and incorrect color rendition causes them to skew the adjustments to that, too. In addition to being way too dark, your images also have way too much yellow tint. That suggests that your monitor is "too cool".

I hope you don't mind, I downloaded your images just to see what was possible with a little attention in Photoshop. I think the first image improved a lot with some brightening and then some cooling filters added. After doing this I started to see a magenta tint and added a little green filter to counteract that. Ideally I'd have selected the sky and not lightened it as much as the rest of the image, but that's time consuming and I just wanted to give some idea what was possible.

Your last image is the other one I did some similar work on, just to see how it would look. It needed the same lightening and cooling, but also had a couple other things going on. First, I think the cabin looked a bit "tilted" and used a little crop to straighten it. Next, there's considerable color bleed happening to the trees against the bright sky, as well as some in the peak of the building, nearest the sky. I used a color replacement tool to correct some of it, only the trees in the upper right hand corner of the image (also a time consuming retouching job), so you could see what's possible.

The issues with overall image brightness and color tint like these might be largely solved if you got a calibration device such as a Datacolor Spyder or X-Rite ColorMunki and use it occasionally on your monitor. Those devices (with software) are pretty easy to use and start around $100.... But if you do many prints they will eventually pay for themselves in savings of ink and paper, or the cost and delays of having reprints done if you send out your printing. Monitors lose brightness and shift color over time and with age, too... so occasional re-calibration is needed (I do it monthly).

Below are those two images with a little Photoshoppin' done to them, with a calibrated computer monitor, along with reposts of your originals to compare side by side. See what you think...

Lighthened (a lot) & color adjusted.
Lighthened (a lot) & color adjusted....
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Lightened, color adjusted, straightened, partially retouched.
Lightened, color adjusted, straightened, partially...
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Original
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Aug 17, 2019 23:52:57   #
bgrn Loc: Pleasant Grove UT
 
Retired CPO wrote:
I like all of them. Very nice! Where are the falls photos from?


These are going into the Francis Falls trail in Glacier NP. The map shows 3 named falls but there are also 2 other falls on the way in that are just as nice.

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Aug 18, 2019 00:11:09   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
I'm pretty familiar with the park. I've camped there several times in the RV. I knew these weren't on the Going to The Sun road although there are some along the way. I've never hiked that trail, I'll have to look into that next time.

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Aug 18, 2019 00:21:55   #
bgrn Loc: Pleasant Grove UT
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Hi,

First, you have a good eye and those are nice photos with a lot of potential.

Do you want some constructive feedback?

I hope so, because your photos are nice enough they deserve some more attention.

Is your computer monitor calibrated? I suspect not because all your images are too dark and have color shifts. These things often happen because most computer monitors are way too bright for proper photo post-processing and don't render color very accurately either. An overly bright monitor causes people to adjust their images too dark... and incorrect color rendition causes them to skew the adjustments to that, too. In addition to being way too dark, your images also have way too much yellow tint. That suggests that your monitor is "too cool".

I hope you don't mind, I downloaded your images just to see what was possible with a little attention in Photoshop. I think the first image improved a lot with some brightening and then some cooling filters added. After doing this I started to see a magenta tint and added a little green filter to counteract that. Ideally I'd have selected the sky and not lightened it as much as the rest of the image, but that's time consuming and I just wanted to give some idea what was possible.

Your last image is the other one I did some similar work on, just to see how it would look. It needed the same lightening and cooling, but also had a couple other things going on. First, I think the cabin looked a bit "tilted" and used a little crop to straighten it. Next, there's considerable color bleed happening to the trees against the bright sky, as well as some in the peak of the building, nearest the sky. I used a color replacement tool to correct some of it, only the trees in the upper right hand corner of the image (also a time consuming retouching job), so you could see what's possible.

The issues with overall image brightness and color tint like these might be largely solved if you got a calibration device such as a Datacolor Spyder or X-Rite ColorMunki and use it occasionally on your monitor. Those devices (with software) are pretty easy to use and start around $100.... But if you do many prints they will eventually pay for themselves in savings of ink and paper, or the cost and delays of having reprints done if you send out your printing. Monitors lose brightness and shift color over time and with age, too... so occasional re-calibration is needed (I do it monthly).

Below are those two images with a little Photoshoppin' done to them, with a calibrated computer monitor, along with reposts of your originals to compare side by side. See what you think...
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Thanks for your input. Funny you should mention calibrating my monitors, I have noticed the changes going from my home computer to my work computer and this last week I have been checking out some of the calibrating software you mentioned as well as others.

The changes you made were and improvement that I can learn from, as part of my current focus is also in learning Post Processing. As you can tell I have a bit to go in that area.

As far as the feedback, I hope I am always able to accept and appreciate someone's opinion, after all part of why I am on this forum is to learn how to look at photography from several different angles. So thank you for your input. This hobby for me is an ever learning process.

Thanks again for taking the time to change up a couple photos and repost.

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Aug 18, 2019 05:53:36   #
J-SPEIGHT Loc: Akron, Ohio
 
bgrn wrote:
Still trying to see what I can do with some older jpg's from before I was familiar with my camera and the digital age, and learning and experimenting with LR. Had to push the limits in Post to bring these back to life but I am learning what the extremes will do. Going back has also shown me how much I have learned over the last few years in not having to push the PP as much as I did with these.

Beautiful images Kelly.

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