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Aug 14, 2019 14:58:51   #
CloudyCoastPhotography
 
Okay, this question has probably been asked a thousand times, so now 1001. And I’m sure I could find the answer on here with minimal searching but I’m asking again anyway. I’m not kind to trolls so please just skip to the next one if you aren’t friendly!
I’ve decided to move up in the world and say good-bye to my trusty Pentax, which has become an extension of my arm. I shoot portraits, real estate, classic cars, landscapes, etc and I make money doing it so I can justify spending or saving more and then spending. I’ve decided to go down the Canon or Nikon road; I’ve researched the D850 and it looks awesome. Is there an equally or slightly less awesome camera for a smaller budget? Please let me know if you have a D850 or different camera and what you think from your personal experience. Thanks for reading my long-ass question and for the (decent) responses I may get.
CCP

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Aug 14, 2019 15:11:33   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
Well, I can't speak for Nikon, but I own the Canon 5D Mark IV. It is an excellent camera. I'm very content with mine. However, truly if I were starting over I'd look into mirrorless cameras. Sony looks great. I will probably go that route when Canon comes out with one that meets all my needs and wants.

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Aug 14, 2019 15:14:08   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
The first question to ask yourself is why do I want to change from a camera that is working the way it is supposed to, to a different camera when the one I have does just what I want it to do? Moving up in the world is not a good reason ... GAS is serious and you can waste a lot of time looking and asking and trying, etc. Find the reason, then start looking. Just a thought. I’ve done it and regretted it.

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Aug 14, 2019 15:47:56   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
CloudyCoastPhotography wrote:
Okay, this question has probably been asked a thousand times, so now 1001. And I’m sure I could find the answer on here with minimal searching but I’m asking again anyway. I’m not kind to trolls so please just skip to the next one if you aren’t friendly!
I’ve decided to move up in the world and say good-bye to my trusty Pentax, which has become an extension of my arm. I shoot portraits, real estate, classic cars, landscapes, etc and I make money doing it so I can justify spending or saving more and then spending. I’ve decided to go down the Canon or Nikon road; I’ve researched the D850 and it looks awesome. Is there an equally or slightly less awesome camera for a smaller budget? Please let me know if you have a D850 or different camera and what you think from your personal experience. Thanks for reading my long-ass question and for the (decent) responses I may get.
CCP
Okay, this question has probably been asked a thou... (show quote)



From what I've heard the D850 is awesome. I have Nikon gear. I loved my D800 (which was my third Nikon) but it got sort of worn out, although I'm going to take it to a camera repair place to see if they can resurrect it. I bought the D500, which I absolutely love as well. Great DX camera. Huge buffer for wildlife shots. I also own the Z7, which has turned out to be a wonderful camera to hand-hold for just about any shot, except the focus is slow so I don't consider it for fast shooting; it does great on all other objects. I've heard the D850 is a cross between the D810 and the D500, so it can do it all. Good luck.

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Aug 14, 2019 16:08:40   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
CloudyCoastPhotography wrote:
Okay, this question has probably been asked a thousand times, so now 1001. And I’m sure I could find the answer on here with minimal searching but I’m asking again anyway. I’m not kind to trolls so please just skip to the next one if you aren’t friendly!


If you read the answers you got last time, not much has changed in a few weeks.

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-601923-1.html

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Aug 14, 2019 16:22:10   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Bill_de wrote:
If you read the answers you got last time, not much has changed in a few weeks.

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-601923-1.html

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Thanks for posting this, I was just about to.

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Aug 14, 2019 16:35:04   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
CloudyCoastPhotography wrote:
Okay, this question has probably been asked a thousand times, so now 1001. And I’m sure I could find the answer on here with minimal searching but I’m asking again anyway. I’m not kind to trolls so please just skip to the next one if you aren’t friendly! CCP

In my book any UHH member who is too lazy to do “minimal searching” qualifies as a TROLL. I’m not kind to them, either. Skipping to the next one as instructed. Regards, Ralph

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Aug 14, 2019 16:55:30   #
Grahame Loc: Fiji
 
CloudyCoastPhotography wrote:
I shoot portraits, real estate, classic cars, landscapes, etc and I make money doing it so I can justify spending or saving more and then spending.


Ok,

CloudyCoastPhotography wrote:
I’ve decided to go down the Canon or Nikon road; I’ve researched the D850 and it looks awesome. Is there an equally or slightly less awesome camera for a smaller budget?


So what are the specific "awesome" features that the 850 has that you want? When you have answered this your best bet is to look at the manufacturers websites and the specs of other cheaper models and see if they have similar "awesome" features that you would be happy with.

Or it maybe that you have done that already? If so do you have any specific questions you were unable to answer?

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Aug 14, 2019 17:03:20   #
BebuLamar
 
rjaywallace wrote:
In my book any UHH member who is too lazy to do “minimal searching” qualifies as a TROLL. I’m not kind to them, either. Skipping to the next one as instructed. Regards, Ralph


I would think someone who has a camera long enough to be an extension to his arm plus the fact that he is good enough to make money with his camera should have sufficient knowledge to decide for himself. The help in selecting gear only makes some sense when the person who asks really doesn't anything about cameras. Otherwise, who would know better than the one who buys and use the camera which is best for him or her?
Also whenever this kind of question is asked we have a bunch of answers but they do not help the OP in picking the camera because the answers are all over.

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Aug 14, 2019 17:07:30   #
Tim Stapp Loc: Mid Mitten
 
Suggestion, rent before you buy. It's one thing to walk into a camera store and check them out, but quite another to use for at least a few days. A few dollars spent renting can save you a few thousand in making the wrong choice.

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Aug 14, 2019 18:25:19   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Work backward from your professional needs. Booth Nikon and Canon provide a vast selection of lenses for your portrait and real estate work.

For your real estate interior and exterior photography, both brands have excellent wide-angle and perspective control lenses in a variety of focal lengths to combine with the body of your final choice.

For portraiture, again, both manufacturers have a line of normal and medium telephoto glass in the 50mm to 105mm range which can address most portraiture situations. I choose Canon for my portrait work because there is an older 135mm soft focus model (lens) that I love to take the place of my Imagon glass that I used with my medium format film cameras. The Nikon 105mm is a classic portrait lens on a full-frame body.

I do not want to get into a silly Canon vs. Nikon storm that sometimes develops aroud here and I don't want to tell you to do you own research. Rather, I would like to provide you with a methodology of making a wise equipment purchase that will address your needs and begin to enable you to determine your budget.

Once you decide on the focal length of lenses, primes or zooms, and the body type (crop of full-frame) that will meet your requirements, the next step is to determine lens speeds. Fast-glass costs more- do you want a very wide aperture to create ultra-shallow depth of field in your portraits or will an f/2.8 model do the trick for you? In real estate work, it is not likely you will need super-fast lenses in that you are photographing static subjects and you will need more DOP.

I recommend a full-frame body, however, if you have no need for high degrees of enlargement a crop body may work for you.

There is no economy in changing systems unless the new system is a true upgrade in terms of image quality, operating efficiency, and versatility. Examine your present gear and make a list of how it is causing limitations and make certain to address these issues in your new purchase.

Don't get hung up on advertising hype or all the scuttlebutt that goes around online. Analyze your own requirements and budget, buy from a reliable dealer that stands by the products they sell and can provide a good demonstration. Avoid gray-market gear and make certain that you have a full bonafide warranty.

Personally, I have used bit Nikon and Canon film and digital gear and have never had any disappointing or unexpected issue with either line. Going back aways, I made extremely large photomurals form files form a Nikon D-300 so I am sure their latest professional-level models will be awesome. Currently, I am using a Canon full-frame system every day with excellent results. If you can access a local dealer and actually handle these various choices and see which you find more ergonomic as to design, weight, access to controls, etc., that would be advantageous.

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Aug 14, 2019 18:37:22   #
mrpentaxk5ii
 
Pentax has made a lot of different cameras over the years, not knowing what you used in the past with Pentax as far of a camera and glass it's hard to give any advice, also how you post-process your files will become a factor, I started with a Pentax K-100D Super and now my last three bodies are the K5 II, K3 and a K3II, the last two I use for event photography. What ever camera system you get into.....Don't go down the cheap glass rabbit hole.

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Aug 14, 2019 19:43:18   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
CloudyCoastPhotography wrote:
Okay, this question has probably been asked a thousand times, so now 1001. And I’m sure I could find the answer on here with minimal searching but I’m asking again anyway. I’m not kind to trolls so please just skip to the next one if you aren’t friendly!
I’ve decided to move up in the world and say good-bye to my trusty Pentax, which has become an extension of my arm. I shoot portraits, real estate, classic cars, landscapes, etc and I make money doing it so I can justify spending or saving more and then spending. I’ve decided to go down the Canon or Nikon road; I’ve researched the D850 and it looks awesome. Is there an equally or slightly less awesome camera for a smaller budget? Please let me know if you have a D850 or different camera and what you think from your personal experience. Thanks for reading my long-ass question and for the (decent) responses I may get.
CCP
Okay, this question has probably been asked a thou... (show quote)


Well, I'm not a troll but a hobbyist. A couple of issues I need to be clear on. You have a good camera. If you buy another camera, now you will need to learn that camera and develop a new "muscle memory." That may be a substantial obstacle. I shoot Canon. The Nikon D850 USA nice machine. You could also look at the Canon 7D. I have a friend who loves his Sony. By the time this thread is finished it will be 25 pages later and you will have a boatload of suggestions which will only confuse you more. If your "joint" is working well, don't fuss with anything similar. IMHO!
Happy Shooting!

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Aug 14, 2019 21:45:16   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
rjaywallace wrote:
In my book any UHH member who is too lazy to do “minimal searching” qualifies as a TROLL. I’m not kind to them, either. Skipping to the next one as instructed. Regards, Ralph


I find the search feature here on UHH abysmal. I do try it, but usually without much success. Half the time I can't even find my own posts.

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Aug 14, 2019 22:04:00   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
rjaywallace wrote:
In my book any UHH member who is too lazy to do “minimal searching” qualifies as a TROLL. I’m not kind to them, either. Skipping to the next one as instructed. Regards, Ralph


Dear Hoggers, let's not end in name calling. It really isn't bringing any Benefit to the Forum. In My Humble Opinion, I believe this forum was intended for all of us with a common thematic thread (photography) to benefit. Simply this, I am far from a professional. But I am eager to make the photographs I take tomorrow better than those I took yesterday.

As for being a Gnome, a curmudgeon or a troll I remember something from my childhood.

STICKS AND STONES MAY BREAK MY BONES....BUT NAMES CAN NEVER HURT ME!


Happy Shooting!

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