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Aug 12, 2019 19:00:44   #
Les Brown
 
Some journals say photos submitted may have NO electronic enhancement. If JPEG is manipulated in the camera, should they be disqualified? If this is true, only RAW un-manipulated photos would qualify. Oh, I know they will accept JPEGs, but I thought this is an interesting, likely unimportant, conundrum.

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Aug 12, 2019 19:10:46   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA
 

I think they'll go with date created=date taken=date modified attributes.

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Aug 12, 2019 19:12:00   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
You can't submit a RAW "image". RAW is data only. It must be converted into an image. One can submit a RAW file but not a RAW image.

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Aug 12, 2019 19:12:34   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA
 
kpmac wrote:
You can't submit a RAW "image". RAW is data only. It must be converted into an image. One can submit a RAW file but not a RAW image.


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Aug 12, 2019 19:20:25   #
Les Brown
 
In other words, it is impossible to submit un-PP images. Also, if as most UHHers advise, we shoot RAW, then can't we submit them as they will have to be manipulated?

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Aug 12, 2019 19:29:00   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA
 
Take a picture, review the JPEG, if necessary, adjust the sliders in the camera, take another picture, review the JPEG, rinse, repeat as needed. Now you have an unedited edited JPEG SOOC.

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Aug 12, 2019 19:41:35   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
The semantics battle again, so soon? Will it reach another twenty pages?

If your initial question was other than hypothetical, wouldn't it be best to contact whatever journal or journals you had in mind and learn exactly what their criteria is?

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Aug 12, 2019 19:51:16   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
Les Brown wrote:
In other words, it is impossible to submit un-PP images. Also, if as most UHHers advise, we shoot RAW, then can we submit them as they will have to be manipulated?


You need to ask for guidelines from the organization you are interested in. If you shoot jpg, the camera sets white balance, color corrects to the color space you selected, sharpens, converts the data to 24 bits per pixel (8 bit bytes r, g, b), and compresses your image. For photo journalism, you don't want to go beyond that. Another option is to shoot raw, bring it into your PP software, do whatever PP the guidelines allow then convert to a tiff or jpg choosing the color space, file size / resolution, sharpening and the amount of compression to use (if any) on your own.

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Aug 12, 2019 19:52:49   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Cany143 wrote:
The semantics battle again, so soon? Will it reach another twenty pages?

If your initial question was other than hypothetical, wouldn't it be best to contact whatever journal or journals you had in mind and learn exactly what their criteria is?




Mike

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Aug 12, 2019 19:54:04   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Just send them a mental image directly from your mind ...

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Aug 12, 2019 19:54:45   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA
 
Cany143 wrote:
The semantics battle again, so soon? Will it reach another twenty pages?

If your initial question was other than hypothetical, wouldn't it be best to contact whatever journal or journals you had in mind and learn exactly what their criteria is?

I believe he was being facetious.

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Aug 12, 2019 19:56:07   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Just send them a mental image directly from your mind ...


That way it looks exactly like you think it should.

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Aug 12, 2019 19:57:27   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Longshadow wrote:

I think they'll go with date created=date taken=date modified attributes.


Anyone can easily change the dates. I just did for this one I created this image over a week ago and modified the taken date to 8/31/19, 19 days in the future. It took me around 10 seconds in FastStone Viewer.


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Aug 12, 2019 20:02:00   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Anyone can easily change the dates. I just did for this one I created this image over a week ago and modified the taken date to 8/31/19, 19 days in the future.

Try the others.
I can only change two (in Win 7). Without a super-duper file manipulator.

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Aug 12, 2019 20:35:49   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Longshadow wrote:
Try the others.
I can only change two (in Win 7). Without a super-duper file manipulator.


FastStone Viewer is not exactly a super-duper file manipulator. Its free to anyone and easy to use. I have around 4 or 5 others image viewers and file managers on my Windows 10 machine which can do the same thing, including Windows file manager. Here's an another image where I changed the taken date to two days in the future. I used the built in file manager to do it.


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