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Switching from a crop sensor to a full frame
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Jul 21, 2019 01:00:28   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
sloscheider wrote:
Really? I though Canons lenses were interchangeable - A friend of mine uses an L series 80-200 (or equivalent) on her aps-c canon so I had assumed you could use the crop lenses on a full frame as well - yes I know there would be limitations just curious is this assumption is wrong.


All "L" lens are EF (FF) mount. Canon APS-C bodies can use both EF and EF-S lenses. EF-S lenses are made for APS-C only and will not even mount on a FF.
Most of the third party lens companies only use the EF mount for both FF and APS-C lenses but the APS-C on a FF body will vignette to one degree or another. In extreme cases you would get a circular image in the middle of the frame.

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Jul 21, 2019 03:56:58   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Southeast, Southcentral PA
 
sloscheider wrote:
Really? I though Canons lenses were interchangeable - A friend of mine uses an L series 80-200 (or equivalent) on her aps-c canon so I had assumed you could use the crop lenses on a full frame as well - yes I know there would be limitations just curious is this assumption is wrong.


EF-S mount lenses are designed specifically to not mount full frame bodies for several reasons. One of those reasons is, the mirror in APS-C bodies is smaller than full frame bodies and EF-S mount lenses insert farther into the body. If you were to modify the EF-S mount so it would attach to a full frame body, the mirror would more than likely smack the rear end of the lens as it flips up out of the way of the shutter. This would not be a good thing.

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Jul 21, 2019 05:07:56   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
I use both Crop and FF in the Nikon DSLR range. Still getting use out of the Nikon MF lenses on both bodies.

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Jul 21, 2019 05:40:16   #
miked46 Loc: Winter Springs, Florida
 
I am also looking, but my only reason for switching would be if I was going to be doing more sunset or sunrise shoots, and more low light situations.

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Jul 21, 2019 06:13:06   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
Wingpilot wrote:
Just remember that if you decide on the full frame 6D, you will have to buy all new full frame lenses as the lenses for your 80D will not fit on or work with the full frame camera. The camera may be at a good price, but the lenses will cost you much more.


And THAT’s exactly why I recommend NIKON. All of the F mount lenses (since 1959) will fit both DX and FX bodies and except for the D3xxx and D5xxx bodies will allow aperture priority and manual shooting since the lifght meter will be active. I used a 1982 300mm f/4.5 lens on a D300s using the “non-CPU” function. And when I picked up a D700 all of my FF glass is compatible.

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Jul 21, 2019 06:35:00   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Hans2675 wrote:
Hi, I'm questioning if I should sell my Canon 80d for a used 6d full frame. I'm perfectly happy with the 80d and the crop sensor and I also don't feel like it's limiting me yet in my photography. Just considering it because of most of the things I read when it comes to Focal lengths seem to always be in regards to full frame cameras. For example this lens and Focal length is best for portraits or this Focal length for landscapes. I'm well aware I can use a smaller length to compensate for the 1.6 crop to to equal a suggested length, but just feel like the availability isn't there and I'm beginning to look at higher end lenses "L" lenses and feel like they'd be best suited with a full frame. Photography is definitely something I'm going to continue to do and may quite possibly pursue as a career in the future. Right now mostly take landscapes and street photography, but would like to begin to dabble and learn some portraiture. Selling my 80d and buying a used 6d with a low shutter count would basically be an even trade for me. Thanks in advance for everyone's help.
Hi, I'm questioning if I should sell my Canon 80d ... (show quote)


Don't switch, use both like I do. It is Like having a different tool in the tool box. Each has it's advantages, learn them and use both for what they were intended.

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Jul 21, 2019 07:26:28   #
khorinek
 
Do it! You won't regret moving to full frame. The 6D is a great camera, although I would consider the 6D Mark II if you are considering going professional. You will need Full Frame lenses as the crop sensor lenses won't work on a full frame camera. You could go with the EOS RP Mirrorless camera. It was built similar to the 6D II and will utilize your crop sensor lenses.

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Jul 21, 2019 07:28:44   #
khorinek
 
robertjerl wrote:
All "L" lens are EF (FF) mount. Canon APS-C bodies can use both EF and EF-S lenses. EF-S lenses are made for APS-C only and will not even mount on a FF.
Most of the third party lens companies only use the EF mount for both FF and APS-C lenses but the APS-C on a FF body will vignette to one degree or another. In extreme cases you would get a circular image in the middle of the frame.


They will mount, but you will only see a small round hole through the view finder.

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Jul 21, 2019 07:33:07   #
Blair Shaw Jr
 
Hans2675 wrote:
Hi, I'm questioning if I should sell my Canon 80d for a used 6d full frame. I'm perfectly happy with the 80d and the crop sensor and I also don't feel like it's limiting me yet in my photography. Just considering it because of most of the things I read when it comes to Focal lengths seem to always be in regards to full frame cameras. For example this lens and Focal length is best for portraits or this Focal length for landscapes. I'm well aware I can use a smaller length to compensate for the 1.6 crop to to equal a suggested length, but just feel like the availability isn't there and I'm beginning to look at higher end lenses "L" lenses and feel like they'd be best suited with a full frame. Photography is definitely something I'm going to continue to do and may quite possibly pursue as a career in the future. Right now mostly take landscapes and street photography, but would like to begin to dabble and learn some portraiture. Selling my 80d and buying a used 6d with a low shutter count would basically be an even trade for me. Thanks in advance for everyone's help.
Hi, I'm questioning if I should sell my Canon 80d ... (show quote)


I would keep the 80D and buy L-Glass for it while the battle over mirrorless types rages on. When the dust settles, I would consider a Mirrorless FF model that will accommodate those lovely L-lenses you now have and you won't have wasted a penny in the process......good luck man !

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Jul 21, 2019 08:14:47   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Keep what you have and buy a full frame. The crop frame will give you more reach with any lens. Two cameras are better than one. Enjoy the hobby. Fun wasn't meant to be practical.

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Jul 21, 2019 08:24:22   #
editorsteve
 
EF-S lenses will work on the R or RP but not on the 6D. My wife, an event photographer, moved from 60D to 6D years ago and now has the RP... she will stay with mirrorless and upgrade that. The RP is a very good deal for (as said) slow moving or static scenes.

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Jul 21, 2019 08:47:25   #
Nikon1201
 
If you are happy leave it along. If you want to spend the money do so.

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Jul 21, 2019 09:02:44   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA
 
sloscheider wrote:
Really? I though Canons lenses were interchangeable - A friend of mine uses an L series 80-200 (or equivalent) on her aps-c canon so I had assumed you could use the crop lenses on a full frame as well - yes I know there would be limitations just curious is this assumption is wrong.

APS-C can use both, FF only EF

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Jul 21, 2019 09:04:40   #
bleirer
 
editorsteve wrote:
EF-S lenses will work on the R or RP but not on the 6D. My wife, an event photographer, moved from 60D to 6D years ago and now has the RP... she will stay with mirrorless and upgrade that. The RP is a very good deal for (as said) slow moving or static scenes.


I'll just remind the OP that ef-s lenses on an RP will automatically switch the camera to 1.6x crop mode with a 3:2 aspect ratio, throwing away the extra 'full frame' pixels.

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Jul 21, 2019 09:07:59   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
If you have a number of "L" lenses that will work with the 6D, it might be worth it. Remember that EF-S lenses will not work on full-frame cameras. Maybe try renting one for a week to see what you think. I upgraded from a 70D to a refurbished 6D from Canon and have never looked back. The general image quality is much better and the low-light with low noise capability is amazing.

These are some low-light photos at our local zoo: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-470932-1.html

Attached is a photo using the multi-shot low-noise technology. The lighting was a hand-held spotlight. The camera was hand-held, the 100-400mm lens was at 330mm, the shutter speed was 1/80 and the ISO was 25,600. Not outstanding quality, but given the circumstances, pretty darned good.


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