Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main Photography Discussion
iPhone Camera vs DSLR quality?
Page <<first <prev 5 of 16 next> last>>
Jul 18, 2019 09:45:27   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
GailConnorsPhotography wrote:
No,,Nooo I am a real person, willing to listen and learn. I love this crazy forum but I've felt like a stalker (don't worry) for so long. because all I do is read the items that matter to me. And have never commented before... now I think I just opened up a can of worms!! so before I was ever an "in" I'm probably an "out


If you are willing to learn, learn to use "Quote Reply"

Otherwise you are just a troll.

Reply
Jul 18, 2019 10:31:35   #
machia Loc: NJ
 
Longshadow wrote:
I'm confused... Did you intend the comment for someone else?
The only thing I have two thumbs up for in this thread is in reply to this:

PixelStan77 wrote:
Gail,

I used the analogy for my students at the University continuing education department as follows.
A Iphone and a DSLR both have the same fuction. Taking images. It is like going from point A to point B in a VW Bug versus going in a Lincoln Continental. Has to do with features and options.


A VW and a Lincoln Continental will arrive at the same point, but a DSLR and an iPhone will yield different results according to the image size. The lens on a phone and an f1.2 prime lens are in no way equal, perhaps on small displays, but that’s the limitation of a cellphone.
Yes, you can get creative to a point on a cellphone, but not to the level of a dedicated camera, not yet anyway.

Reply
Jul 18, 2019 10:44:55   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
GailConnorsPhotography wrote:
Hi, new but been with you forever, & am sure this has been answered before... I'll be teaching an IPhone Camera Course soon, so I shd know this! Need your help - I'm from the film days, made the trans to digital, trying to come to terms with phone photo. Need to know how to explain/understand the difference of quality. I am a purist by heart but sometimes you have to go with technology, I'm trying,. Some say they are very close & that it's not the "tool" it's the user. I have taken several courses on iPhone Photography & am amazed at the controls that are available. I'll stop now and ask for any advice or views. thx in advance
Hi, new but been with you forever, & am sure t... (show quote)


Gail;
welcome to the forum. FIVE (5) pages of replies and some of them are very good and hopefully helpful for you. Please ignore the other stuff. If the topic is cell phone photography, politics and even religion; this seems to really stir up the litter box and stink the place up. If you have indeed been following this forum for some time you should already know this and know what to expect. I wish I had some input to offer you but I use a Samsung S6, Nikon D200 DSLR (oldie but goodie) and have and used various point'n shooters.
The very positive and good thing today is that we have SOOOOOO many options available to us today including the cell phone camera options which have obviously developed into capable tools. I wish you success in your endeavors and again, Welcome to the forum.
Brought to you by Sir Bruce tha loose in sunny Texas.

Reply
 
 
Jul 18, 2019 10:50:10   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
machia wrote:
A VW and a Lincoln Continental will arrive at the same point, but a DSLR and an iPhone will yield different results according to the image size. The lens on a phone and an f1.2 prime lens are in no way equal, perhaps on small displays, but that’s the limitation of a cellphone.
Yes, you can get creative to a point on a cellphone, but not to the level of a dedicated camera, not yet anyway.


Oookayyyy.
Shouldn't you be replying to PixelStan?
All I did was like his analogy.

Reply
Jul 18, 2019 11:05:33   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
GailConnorsPhotography wrote:
Hi, new but been with you forever, & am sure this has been answered before... I'll be teaching an IPhone Camera Course soon, so I shd know this! Need your help - I'm from the film days, made the trans to digital, trying to come to terms with phone photo. Need to know how to explain/understand the difference of quality. I am a purist by heart but sometimes you have to go with technology, I'm trying,. Some say they are very close & that it's not the "tool" it's the user. I have taken several courses on iPhone Photography & am amazed at the controls that are available. I'll stop now and ask for any advice or views. thx in advance
Hi, new but been with you forever, & am sure t... (show quote)

Gail,
Good question! I have made photos using a variety of full frame, APSC, and 1" sensor cameras, as well as two different iPhones. Each device is capable of producing excellent images of high quality, as long as you use them in a way that takes advantage of their capabilities and are aware of their constraints. The first thing to consider is whether the image that will be produced is intended to be used only for social media or other internet display, publication in a magazine, calendar or book, or printed in large format (20"X30" or larger) for private or public display. As recently as 10 years ago, cameras with less resolution than an iPhone produced pictures that could be used in any of these formats--so resolution isn't really the issue. While some might consider resolution to be a key factor in quality, I suspect they wouldn't consider paintings by famous artists to be of low quality because the resolution of the brushstrokes is poor. Nor do I think paintings are judged by the brush used or the type of paint used. If a photographer only intends to document what he observes, any camera will do. But if a photographer wants to create something that is worth appreciating for its beauty and creativity, he or she would be wise to learn about composition and lighting first, and then select the tools (camera, lens, post processing software, and possibly tripod and filters) that facilitate the production of the image he or she wants to create. Depending on his or her vision of the image to be created, an iPhone with available inexpensive post-processing software may suffice; or an interchangeable lens camera may be needed to allow lenses of different focal lengths and fields of view to be used, or to facilitate image capture in low light. In short: photographic equipment and software are tools. The product will always depend on the artist's vision and skill in using the tools available. The tools available are far superior today than any other time in the past. The tools don't create the photograph--the photographer does. Hope this helps.

Reply
Jul 18, 2019 11:24:15   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
riderxlx wrote:
Gail;
welcome to the forum. FIVE (5) pages of replies and some of them are very good and hopefully helpful for you. Please ignore the other stuff. If the topic is cell phone photography, politics and even religion; this seems to really stir up the litter box and stink the place up. If you have indeed been following this forum for some time you should already know this and know what to expect. I wish I had some input to offer you but I use a Samsung S6, Nikon D200 DSLR (oldie but goodie) and have and used various point'n shooters.
The very positive and good thing today is that we have SOOOOOO many options available to us today including the cell phone camera options which have obviously developed into capable tools. I wish you success in your endeavors and again, Welcome to the forum.
Brought to you by Sir Bruce tha loose in sunny Texas.
Gail; br welcome to the forum. FIVE (5) pages of r... (show quote)


Obviously you have not really read the thread. The OP is a troll. Makes snide comments but won't use "Quote Reply" so that we know who they are being rude to. Claims to be experienced but asks questions no experienced photographer would ever ask.

Reply
Jul 18, 2019 11:39:48   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Obviously you have not really read the thread. The OP is a troll. Makes snide comments but won't use "Quote Reply" so that we know who they are being rude to. Claims to be experienced but asks questions no experienced photographer would ever ask.

Appears so.
If she took multiple cell phone courses, wouldn't she know what to teach? Or at least have an idea?

Reply
 
 
Jul 18, 2019 11:58:45   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
I could not disagree with you more that documentary shooting can be done with any camera. You need the gear that is appropriate for the task. Some documentary shooting may be more important in the future than an artistic image.

jackpinoh wrote:
Gail,
Good question! I have made photos using a variety of full frame, APSC, and 1" sensor cameras, as well as two different iPhones. Each device is capable of producing excellent images of high quality, as long as you use them in a way that takes advantage of their capabilities and are aware of their constraints. The first thing to consider is whether the image that will be produced is intended to be used only for social media or other internet display, publication in a magazine, calendar or book, or printed in large format (20"X30" or larger) for private or public display. As recently as 10 years ago, cameras with less resolution than an iPhone produced pictures that could be used in any of these formats--so resolution isn't really the issue. While some might consider resolution to be a key factor in quality, I suspect they wouldn't consider paintings by famous artists to be of low quality because the resolution of the brushstrokes is poor. Nor do I think paintings are judged by the brush used or the type of paint used. If a photographer only intends to document what he observes, any camera will do. But if a photographer wants to create something that is worth appreciating for its beauty and creativity, he or she would be wise to learn about composition and lighting first, and then select the tools (camera, lens, post processing software, and possibly tripod and filters) that facilitate the production of the image he or she wants to create. Depending on his or her vision of the image to be created, an iPhone with available inexpensive post-processing software may suffice; or an interchangeable lens camera may be needed to allow lenses of different focal lengths and fields of view to be used, or to facilitate image capture in low light. In short: photographic equipment and software are tools. The product will always depend on the artist's vision and skill in using the tools available. The tools available are far superior today than any other time in the past. The tools don't create the photograph--the photographer does. Hope this helps.
Gail, br Good question! I have made photos using a... (show quote)

Reply
Jul 18, 2019 12:44:55   #
riderxlx Loc: DFW area Texas
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Obviously you have not really read the thread. The OP is a troll. Makes snide comments but won't use "Quote Reply" so that we know who they are being rude to. Claims to be experienced but asks questions no experienced photographer would ever ask.


Sir;
Yes I did read her thread and clearly understood it plus I also read all the replies before I added mine. Normally I refrain from silly shit but today I did not. My offer to her is kindness and the benefit of the doubt.
I believe that kindness and respect goes farther than negative replies, unless you know something I do not know and prove me to be naive. If so, so what ? I offer kindness instead, what do I have to loose right ?
I offer this and let it go.
off to the beach brother and hope the OP gleaned something useful today. I think she did.
Peace bro.

Reply
Jul 18, 2019 13:59:57   #
Collhar Loc: New York City.
 
dsmeltz wrote:
If you are willing to learn, learn to use "Quote Reply"

Otherwise you are just a troll.


What do you call a Troll who uses, "Quote Reply"??

Reply
Jul 18, 2019 14:05:13   #
Collhar Loc: New York City.
 
machia wrote:
A VW and a Lincoln Continental will arrive at the same point, but a DSLR and an iPhone will yield different results according to the image size. The lens on a phone and an f1.2 prime lens are in no way equal, perhaps on small displays, but that’s the limitation of a cellphone.
Yes, you can get creative to a point on a cellphone, but not to the level of a dedicated camera, not yet anyway.


I think the audience has changed and their views of what is important. Someone sends them a picture from a cell phone they look at and may share it. That audience will not waste their time in some dumb a$$ who's on first BS. They have moved on to important things.

Reply
 
 
Jul 18, 2019 15:59:00   #
DRam11 Loc: Polson, MT
 
GailConnorsPhotography wrote:
Need to know how to explain/understand the difference of quality.


It is assumed that by quality you are referring to color, sharpness, etc. When viewed on a computer screen, and according to other's experience printing, there is very little as shown by the images posted previously. With any camera the quality of an image depends on how well the photographer knows the camera.

I will say that my experience is that cell phones are more difficult to hold steady than (pardon the term) real cameras. And I have found digital zoom to provide lower quality than that of either of those used on my DSLR.

Other than that, I have had good results with both my Samsung S-5 and my Moto G6.

Reply
Jul 18, 2019 17:16:09   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Collhar wrote:
What do you call a Troll who uses, "Quote Reply"??


Ok. I want the punch line.
What do you call a troll who uses "Quote Reply"?

Another question :
Is there anyone left who has not realized this OP is a bot?

Reply
Jul 18, 2019 18:07:15   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
GailConnorsPhotography wrote:
to reply, you said that tiny little lens, there now many available different focal length lenses


Yes, there are. How many people actually use them and they are still tiny little lenses you put in front of another tiny little lens.
Have you discovered quote reply yet?

Reply
Jul 18, 2019 18:14:07   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
GailConnorsPhotography wrote:
When I say I'm a purist I've been in photography since "1971" Done all the dark room stuff and loved getting my nails yellow, that kind of purist! And no, you are limited if you don't at least look into and explore what you are afraid to find out!


I've been into photography since maybe a couple years prior to you. I was fairly young when the bug bit. I still don't get the purist thing though. I've been riding motorized two wheel vehicles about as long as I've been involved in photography. Does that make me a purist?!

Reply
Page <<first <prev 5 of 16 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main Photography Discussion
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.