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Jul 13, 2019 23:24:00   #
Ballard Loc: Grass Valley, California
 
Here is a shot of Saturn I took this morning. This is a stack of ~900 frames taken from a 4K video using an 11 inch Schmitt Cassegrain and a canon 5D markIV in 4K video mode. The stacking software was the freeware program "RegiStax6".


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Jul 13, 2019 23:28:56   #
NMGal Loc: NE NM
 
Forgive my ignorance. How come you can’t see any stars?

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Jul 13, 2019 23:55:28   #
ClarkG Loc: Southern Indiana USA
 
Wow! Incredible results! I know how hard it is to get a great image like this! Superb job!

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Jul 14, 2019 00:02:11   #
Ballard Loc: Grass Valley, California
 
NMGal wrote:
Forgive my ignorance. How come you can’t see any stars?


Hi NMGal
Relative to any stars that would be in the field of view, Saturn is thousands of times brighter. If the exposure where long enough to see the stars Saturn would be completely blowout (note: each frame is 1/30 of a second long no where near long enough to register any stars currently near to Saturn). If a really bright star like Sirius had happened to be in the field of view it would show up. The same goes for Saturn's moons the brightest of which is Titan at magnitude 8.4 while Saturn is at magnitude .07, Note the magnitude scale is logarithmic with the smaller value being brighter (the full moon would be magnitude -11). This is the same reason that no stars show up in the Moon landing missions.

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Jul 14, 2019 00:11:42   #
Ballard Loc: Grass Valley, California
 
ClarkG wrote:
Wow! Incredible results! I know how hard it is to get a great image like this! Superb job!


Hi Clark
Thanks. It took over 900 frames to get the image this clean and then some wavelet processing in Registax. Although Saturn is higher in the sky than Jupiter it is still not real high even when it is transiting, so there is a lot of atmosphere to cause blurring. In another decade or so it will be much higher up for those of us in the northern hemisphere and the imaging should be that much better then.

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Jul 14, 2019 00:12:26   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
NMGal wrote:
Forgive my ignorance. How come you can’t see any stars?


For one, as magnification is increased, images become darker.
Then when we expose for the brightest object. The dimmer objects will not register.
If there was no other object, such as stars of the same magnitude in brightness visible, then it will not register.

But this image makes me ask questions too. Why are there no moons visible because being near the planet they usually shine as bright.

Still a good capture though.

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Jul 14, 2019 00:20:33   #
Ballard Loc: Grass Valley, California
 
Wallen wrote:
For one, as magnification is increased, images become darker.
Then when we expose for the brightest object. The dimmer objects will not register.
If there was no other object, such as stars of the same magnitude in brightness visible, then it will not register.

But this image makes me ask questions too. Why are there no moons visible. Usually there are at least 3 visible moons because being near the planet they usually shine as bright.

Still a good capture though.


Hi Wallen
The only moon that might have had a chance of showing faintly was Titan, however it was far enough away that it would not be in the field of view of this image. Note: The picture of Jupiter I sent out earlier today does show 2 of its moons in the images (but they are much brighter than Titan and fairly close to the planet at the time of the image (see https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-600510-1.html)

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Jul 14, 2019 04:59:30   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Ballard wrote:
Hi Wallen
The only moon that might have had a chance of showing faintly was Titan, however it was far enough away that it would not be in the field of view of this image. Note: The picture of Jupiter I sent out earlier today does show 2 of its moons in the images (but they are much brighter than Titan and fairly close to the planet at the time of the image (see https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-600510-1.html)


Initially i was hoping to see some of them because you mentioned it was a an 11" reflector as a 6” used under decent skies can show objects down to magnitude 13.5. That would be able to show Mimas, Enceladus & Thethys which are closer to the planet that Titan, specially if they are about to transit.

Then i realize if Saturn is still low in the horizon, atmospheric distortions could have made them impossible to view.

The Jupiter images were beautiful.

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Jul 14, 2019 05:26:03   #
nervous2 Loc: Provo, Utah
 
Ballard wrote:
Here is a shot of Saturn I took this morning. This is a stack of ~900 frames taken from a 4K video using an 11 inch Schmitt Cassegrain and a canon 5D markIV in 4K video mode. The stacking software was the freeware program "RegiStax6".

Both your Saturn and Jupiter shots are magnificent. I've gotta figure out how to at least take a stab at similar shots. Thanks for the posts.

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Jul 14, 2019 06:37:44   #
J-SPEIGHT Loc: Akron, Ohio
 
Ballard wrote:
Here is a shot of Saturn I took this morning. This is a stack of ~900 frames taken from a 4K video using an 11 inch Schmitt Cassegrain and a canon 5D markIV in 4K video mode. The stacking software was the freeware program "RegiStax6".


Excellent capture.

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Jul 14, 2019 08:28:58   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
NEAT!

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Jul 14, 2019 10:14:59   #
StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Ballard wrote:
Here is a shot of Saturn I took this morning. This is a stack of ~900 frames taken from a 4K video using an 11 inch Schmitt Cassegrain and a canon 5D markIV in 4K video mode. The stacking software was the freeware program "RegiStax6".


Beautiful!
Steve

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Jul 14, 2019 10:20:20   #
odujim Loc: New Jersey
 
My partner is an astronomer and he would be quite jealous of your astro-photography. Well done!

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Jul 14, 2019 10:43:57   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
nervous2 wrote:
Both your Saturn and Jupiter shots are magnificent. I've gotta figure out how to at least take a stab at similar shots. Thanks for the posts.


It would take a pretty significant investment in gear to do what the OP does.

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Jul 14, 2019 10:45:07   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Very nicely done! Great photo, as were the Jupiter photos.

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