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Ultimate Photography Crash Course -Scott Kelby
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Jul 11, 2019 13:57:51   #
scsdesphotography Loc: Southeastern Michigan
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Kelby is one of the best. And very entertaining. Who is better for the price?



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Jul 11, 2019 15:43:12   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
khorinek wrote:
During the day long seminar I took, Scott never pushed a product. He shoots Canon and I am sure Canon gives him their latest products to use, but he never tried to push Canon products. He puts on an excellent seminar and I would recommend to all to attend at least once. You never know what you might learn.


Wasn't referring to products per se, just a bit of self-promotion. Did he do any of that?

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Jul 11, 2019 15:45:31   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
I am sure the photographer/teacher mentioned here is
reputable based on the good reviews posted by others. Bad actors in the seminar business, don't last long as their reputation precedes them! Good teachers carry on!

Believe me, 99 bucks don't grow on trees but it ain't an outrageous fee for a decent class.

I am not a big fan of the term "crash course"- as Gene has alluded to, learning the finer points of photography takes time and study, practice and experience and mastery doesn't happen overnight. I'm sure you will glean something useful from most good classes, online tutorials and reading material.

So...here's my experience. I am an old-timer in the business but I never thought that I "know it all". I am a big fan of ongoing education and as a result, I have given and taken many classes, lectures, seminars, and mostly in-person educational programs. I am selective, so if I want a so-called "crash course", I will choose one that is very specific to a particular aspect of photography: Something that I am not familiar with and I want to explore or get into, an area where I feel I need more help, instruction, or inspiration and/or my wanting to closely examine the work or technique of the teacher.

Some of these classes lasted a week or more and were expensive but eventually paid for themselves in the long run in terms of my professional work, marketing, and being able to offer new or different concepts to clients and improve efficiency.

The odd class was disappointing but I always managed to come away with some useful information like how NOT to present a class or seminar! And...how to advise others on what t avoid! Avoid classes, especially ones that charge a fee and are really designed to SELL certain gear and products. I don't mind paying for an education but I don't like paying to be sold on something. I'll pay for admission to a trade show or convention if I am in the market for equipment. If a manufacturer wants to hire a teacher to endorse their products, let them pay the fee! The other kind of "bad" teacher is a great photographer who just aggrandizes themself, brags about his or her important assignments or clients and does not get into techniques. It's great entertainment but not the best learning experience. My best teachers took the attitude that there are no real secrets in photography- it's all written, taught or online somewhere or someplace. They say just listen up and I'll give you the nuts and bolts and the creativity, practice, and application is up to you!

In-person classes do, however, have a personality and human aspect. Oftentimes, seeing how the teacher interacts with his students, models, subjects and observe their manner, demeanor and attitude is an education in itself. Sometimes, it is surprising that the teacher does not have any secret or magical formulas and employes pretty traditional and straightforward technique but the magic is in their approach, attitude and work ethic. Sometimes there is a simple revelation and you say to yourself "so that's the way you do that"! and that one tip is worth the price of admission.

Classes are great because you get out from behind your computer screen or out of your favorite reading chair and mix with other shooters. You may get to shoot along withthe teacher and otere students- that's invaluable practice! You can participate in the Q&A session and share a meal or a drink with the gang and perhaps the teacher. Some of the best lessons I have learned came after the class!
I am sure the photographer/teacher mentioned here ... (show quote)



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Jul 11, 2019 17:55:09   #
bleirer
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
That would be the first edition of the book. It's been updated since. Also, equipment has changed a bit since 2009 but photography in general has not. Photography isn't about the gear you own, it's about how you use that gear.


I agree the core principles of photography are the same. But if he is sharing specific digital techniques from ten years ago that could be confusing to try it out on a modern setup. Maybe there was an update or another book that superseded it?

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Jul 11, 2019 19:04:23   #
khorinek
 
Gene51 wrote:
Wasn't referring to products per se, just a bit of self-promotion. Did he do any of that?


I don't recall that he did. However, he gave all the participants a link to his seminar and a free subscription to his blog.

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Jul 11, 2019 20:20:23   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
I go to as many courses and workshops as I can. For the most part, I come away with more inspiration and motivation than new knowledge, but I consider them worth the price just for that.

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Jul 11, 2019 20:47:34   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
Drip Dry McFleye wrote:
Has anyone taken this course? If so, what's your opinion? This presentation will be available in a city near me this month. At $99 I'm tempted but wonder if I will actually gain much from it. I'm not an expert photographer by any means but I certainly know about the exposure triangle, WB, etc. If anyone has experienced this presentation I'd sure like to know what you thought of it. Thanks in advance for your input.


I haven't taken his course or read any of his books. I have been meaning to do both for some time. It seems like a good idea just to learn a little bit more than I knew before. Oh wait! I'm a subscriber to Ugly Hedge Hog. I'm already learning more than I did before. I think it is worth an investment in time and money. Try it on for size. Then tell us how it faired.

Happy Shooting!

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Jul 20, 2019 11:55:13   #
Fotoserj Loc: St calixte Qc Ca
 
I wish he’d come to Montreal or near by I’d attend for sure

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