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Jul 8, 2019 18:41:55 #
Jul 9, 2019 08:38:25 #
Kinky snapshot with what appears to be no thought given to pose and composition. Certainly not elegant, classy or artsy. I know that the latter genres are not the intent, but even for kinky snapshots I think they could be done better. For example, VADA is caressing a breast but looking at the camera, as is Jessica, so it is just too posed looking as opposed to showing sexual pleasure. They are clearly more interested in the photographer (ha, ha) than in themselves.
Jul 9, 2019 08:54:45 #
Timmers
Loc: San Antonio Texas.
JohnFrim wrote:
Kinky snapshot with what appears to be no thought given to pose and composition. Certainly not elegant, classy or artsy. I know that the latter genres are not the intent, but even for kinky snapshots I think they could be done better. For example, VADA is caressing a breast but looking at the camera, as is Jessica, so it is just too posed looking as opposed to showing sexual pleasure. They are clearly more interested in the photographer (ha, ha) than in themselves.
Perhaps there is more going on than what is your perception? I've noticed that your comments are more about you than the work you are seeing. This is not derogatory as an observation. Most of the comments I receive are about the viewer and their notions about there perception of the women they are viewing rather than the work being viewed.
Again, please don't get me wrong, it is why I come to the Hog Forum. No other location offers these types of comments. Please keep it up I'm gaining valuable insight about the conservative male response to the work I have done and plan for the future.
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Jul 9, 2019 10:58:17 #
Jul 9, 2019 12:35:16 #
Timmers
Loc: San Antonio Texas.
Rab-Eye wrote:
Not looking to pile on, but this one doesn’t work for me.
Pile on? You guys are funny! I don't expect you guys to find this image that exciting. It is one of several, but so many on here don't get the beauty and power of the images when they are in series, so revealing something to we the viewer (mostly men, women get all of this really quickly).
Here are a set of images that when read will tell a lot about these two women, VADA and Jessica. There is a sexual tension building between the two women. VADA playing with Jessica's nipple. VADA is not causing pain to Jessica, VADA is manipulating Jessica's response to stimulation. In the end, VADA redirects the sexual tension into another possibility, Vada is telling Jessica that she VADA wants her to represent Jessica's desire as oral responses when VADA 'submits' to Jessica.
Women express themselves non verbally, they express desire/need/and want through body language. As in a new born, this communication is what is called pre-verbal, it is the language of the adolescent expression. Two points are critical for all this 'female think', it is why and how they kiss differently from men and why they are so taken with dance. It is actually a primary bases of women's view of foreplay* and why they so enjoy the act of submission.
Here is a portion of the two being in the moment with VADA dominant in role and Jessica following as submissive. These are in order, watch the women's eye interaction.
*Women are not in any defining fashion of this 'foreplay', they make no distinction between foreplay and a start or finish, it is all perhaps; it is part of the seamless continuum of their desire and erotic expression.
Jul 9, 2019 12:49:27 #
Well done, Timmers, you boundary pusher, you! Stylistically I love the warmth and softness of these images.
Jul 9, 2019 13:37:44 #
Timmers wrote:
VADA and Jessica in the Cedar Closet.
Some real good looking bodies here.
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Jul 9, 2019 13:46:29 #
Timmers
Loc: San Antonio Texas.
InfiniteISO wrote:
Well done, Timmers, you boundary pusher, you! Stylistically I love the warmth and softness of these images.
Thanks! But actually I'm not pushing or pressing on any boundaries at all. I'm more in the slip stream of women who are the path finders. I'm one of the men living a charmed life, I just don't go along with the old structure of social edifices. Women are bringing men around to their notions of how it should work.
The old system is fine, no need to panic. But the new vision that a few women is beginning to win over the other women. The key to this all is a quotable line from the rather brilliant social barb of our time, Bob Dylan, that is: "To live outside the law you must be honest, I know you always say that you agree". All it takes is an honest view of the universe, surprisingly the rest comes naturally, at least to me it does.
Recently I was approached by a younger woman photographer about the whole 'alternative life style'. She expressed a health excitement in a self discovery that she had gotten tied up and really liked it! I told her that was great, was she interested in this thing or that? She demurred away from 'those' things, she didn't think she would like it.
My advice to her was what I tell women al the time, avoid conversations with about such things with men, seek out a woman and speak with her about the subject. She asked why women over men? Because men can't get pregnant, women can, and so there is the first basic principle of that age old difference between boys and girls. Then came, who would be a good woman to talk too? I found her so charming, she wants to explore, wants to KNOW but is not sure. I told her my friend VADA has just that perfect person, but she should do the girl test with VADA.
Girl Test? Yes, the girl test, tell her you want to ask her important questions but first you need to know something. What she asked and I told her it was a pre-verbal thing, it is not done with words, it is done with a kiss, that she should kiss VADA, because you need to know if you can trust and know she will speak the truth with her. She looked at me like I was crazy, but then she got it as I pointed out that women kiss differently than men and she could 'know' that the other woman was compatible with her at this time in her life.
It's not easy to be male and think like a woman, but it can be learned, just like being a woman thinking like a man. I'm really lucky, I've learned from a number of women as to how and what women like.
Now more VADA and Jessica:
Jul 9, 2019 14:07:45 #
worldcycle
Loc: Stateline, Nevada
Since you actively seek comments and respond, I toss out my 2 copper coins here.
You are an artist in your own right. Your ideas and creativity. Art creation as well as appreciation is very personal. Personally overall most of what you do do does nothing for me. To me it appears much too contrived, at times forcefully. Very busy. I find myself asking constantly what is the image trying to convey visually or emotionally. What is the subject matter, is it the models, the often visually distracting settings or the entire image? Often your images appear so haphazard that they only warrant a brief glance.
So there you go. One persons critique. It is art. Being art it is enjoyed by some and not by others. Although I do not enjoy your work you can consider yourself successful in the manner that I at least take a moment to consider your latest presentation to see if perhaps it may make enough of a statement to capture my attention.
You are an artist in your own right. Your ideas and creativity. Art creation as well as appreciation is very personal. Personally overall most of what you do do does nothing for me. To me it appears much too contrived, at times forcefully. Very busy. I find myself asking constantly what is the image trying to convey visually or emotionally. What is the subject matter, is it the models, the often visually distracting settings or the entire image? Often your images appear so haphazard that they only warrant a brief glance.
So there you go. One persons critique. It is art. Being art it is enjoyed by some and not by others. Although I do not enjoy your work you can consider yourself successful in the manner that I at least take a moment to consider your latest presentation to see if perhaps it may make enough of a statement to capture my attention.
Jul 9, 2019 14:21:50 #
Timmers
Loc: San Antonio Texas.
travelwp wrote:
Some real good looking bodies here.
Naturally!
VADA was 37 at the time, Jessica was being Babe-A-Luscious at 24. Jessica had a shoot with another photographer and as we got started I told him as he hovered at the door to the Cedar Closet that it was up to the women. Jessica does this to make money, playing it coy, but asked if he would pay for the additional modeling time. So he told her sure, how about $50 more? She agreed, so I said that was settled then, $50 to each model, and I pinched VADA, who got it right away, Jessica would get the money (I hate cheap in guys).
So these were the last images from the set. Then he stepped in to do 'his' 'exclusive' images. Tried to direct there actions and got none of the real energy that comes from letting the girls go wild! LOL!!!
So off Jessica and the dude went and I stayed in the Cedar Closet with Miss VADA. I got her up on the spanking bench that Jessica was on. Then I told the photographer I would be with him shortly and popped over to the dressing room and asked Jessica if she could help me with VADA in the Cedar Closet. So she followed me to the other side of the building where VADA was. I told the girls that I would keep bubba busy for at least thirty minutes whole they finished up their business. Hey, Jessica needed to finish up her modeling and yes I did insist on taking her red panties as payment for getting her an extra $50 that day.
I got a big hug. I love nude models!!!
Jul 10, 2019 21:43:23 #
I'm sorry, Tim, but in my opinion UHH is not the place to publish these sorts of images. They have little "photographic" merit. They tell a story, sometimes as individual images, but mostly as a series accompanied by long-winded explanations of how you think the models think and feel as they go about their kinky sex acts. As I look through the series I feel I am watching a sex video on a soft porn site in VERY slow motion.
Furthermore, you don't take negative criticism well, so it looks to me like you only want attaboys.
There are several contributors in this section who post great images, and I always look forward to their work. Yours... not so much.
Furthermore, you don't take negative criticism well, so it looks to me like you only want attaboys.
There are several contributors in this section who post great images, and I always look forward to their work. Yours... not so much.
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Jul 10, 2019 23:00:03 #
Timmers
Loc: San Antonio Texas.
Well, contrary to many people who post comments I'm really not looking for 'atta-boys'. I already have all the approvals for artistic achievements that I needed in a life time. That is not why I post here. I post here because I look for the reaction to strong images that are not your Ma and Pa sort of images.
Looking around on a place like Deviant Art ten years ago one found a lot of eye candy, and some vary slick eye candy in the form of gorgeous nude women. Now, today, there is even more of that on a site like Deviant Art. What many call soft core, naughty, and strong pin up style work. One can see main stream images like this, just Google Valery Whitaker, Liz Ashly, or Mosh to name but a few. All slick all nude all great looking 21st century hot ladies. Thousands of such images. So many in fact that the big slick girly magazines have died, killed by the net.
One of the refreshing posters here on the Hog is 'Infinity'. He does images of hos fantasy world featuring his wife/life partner. His work is real, it has validity, it is real. I don't have a single significant other like 'Infinity'. I am the super modern 'bad boy' photographer. I'm a vary naughty boy. I know a lot of vary beautiful women, but they are not 'models', they are my friends. They call me, e-mail me and sometimes travel several states to come visit with me. Some are old and homely, some are young and homely, one is drop dead gorgeous but doesn't want to be in front of the camera creating art. But several like doing images and get up set if I don't include their images in exhibitions or post to the net to be seen by loads of people.
Just like Clint Eastwood observed, "A man has got to know his limitations'. It is true, but now just a man, one needs to know the Hog's limitations. Well, I have a pretty good idea of what the Hog's limitations and were the line is. Oh yes, I have loads of hot sizzling images that are across the Hog's lines, I am not about to cross that line because I actual enjoy posting images on here. I also KNOW that there are Hog members that know here Deviant Art is and can go there to pick up loads of images. Cold and empty are these collections. But the stories that are added help to draw life into the images I post. Also, we are coming up on 2020!
In 2000 you would not see the sort of images that can be seen on this forum. Heads up, the world has moved on and the truth is that women have moved on. They like being seen, they like all this alternative world that is 2019. I interact with many of them because I like their view on reality, on their world.
Try to get that in 1960's there were almost no living members of the human race from our Civil War. Now, I have been told that there are most likely no one who have survived World War One. Quickly we are loosing the bulk of those who survived World War Two and the Spanish Influenza of 1918 to 1920. It's all history.
Then the death of Bettie Page and her buddy Bunny Yeager quickly followed. We see no serious review of the relationship with Bettie or Bunny, nor the involvement of Paula Klaw in this important inter relationship. To understand the whole post 60's emergence of the modern woman is critical to an understanding of the whole internet model boom and now bust. Modern women and their views and ideas will happen in the undercurrent of pop culture. It won't really be the modern women of the rich corporate elite, politicians and big think females. It will be the Bettie Page, Bunny Yeager, and Paula Klaws of our world.
So, I'm just here showing off like most of the boys, and being delighted to look around and see all the fun that is the world of 2020 and women. I'm having a blast, I'm hanging out with a bunch of fun interesting women. So that's me, sorry if the group I part with are having fun. You enjoy your little slice of heaven because the one I'm having fun at is just that FUN!
Looking around on a place like Deviant Art ten years ago one found a lot of eye candy, and some vary slick eye candy in the form of gorgeous nude women. Now, today, there is even more of that on a site like Deviant Art. What many call soft core, naughty, and strong pin up style work. One can see main stream images like this, just Google Valery Whitaker, Liz Ashly, or Mosh to name but a few. All slick all nude all great looking 21st century hot ladies. Thousands of such images. So many in fact that the big slick girly magazines have died, killed by the net.
One of the refreshing posters here on the Hog is 'Infinity'. He does images of hos fantasy world featuring his wife/life partner. His work is real, it has validity, it is real. I don't have a single significant other like 'Infinity'. I am the super modern 'bad boy' photographer. I'm a vary naughty boy. I know a lot of vary beautiful women, but they are not 'models', they are my friends. They call me, e-mail me and sometimes travel several states to come visit with me. Some are old and homely, some are young and homely, one is drop dead gorgeous but doesn't want to be in front of the camera creating art. But several like doing images and get up set if I don't include their images in exhibitions or post to the net to be seen by loads of people.
Just like Clint Eastwood observed, "A man has got to know his limitations'. It is true, but now just a man, one needs to know the Hog's limitations. Well, I have a pretty good idea of what the Hog's limitations and were the line is. Oh yes, I have loads of hot sizzling images that are across the Hog's lines, I am not about to cross that line because I actual enjoy posting images on here. I also KNOW that there are Hog members that know here Deviant Art is and can go there to pick up loads of images. Cold and empty are these collections. But the stories that are added help to draw life into the images I post. Also, we are coming up on 2020!
In 2000 you would not see the sort of images that can be seen on this forum. Heads up, the world has moved on and the truth is that women have moved on. They like being seen, they like all this alternative world that is 2019. I interact with many of them because I like their view on reality, on their world.
Try to get that in 1960's there were almost no living members of the human race from our Civil War. Now, I have been told that there are most likely no one who have survived World War One. Quickly we are loosing the bulk of those who survived World War Two and the Spanish Influenza of 1918 to 1920. It's all history.
Then the death of Bettie Page and her buddy Bunny Yeager quickly followed. We see no serious review of the relationship with Bettie or Bunny, nor the involvement of Paula Klaw in this important inter relationship. To understand the whole post 60's emergence of the modern woman is critical to an understanding of the whole internet model boom and now bust. Modern women and their views and ideas will happen in the undercurrent of pop culture. It won't really be the modern women of the rich corporate elite, politicians and big think females. It will be the Bettie Page, Bunny Yeager, and Paula Klaws of our world.
So, I'm just here showing off like most of the boys, and being delighted to look around and see all the fun that is the world of 2020 and women. I'm having a blast, I'm hanging out with a bunch of fun interesting women. So that's me, sorry if the group I part with are having fun. You enjoy your little slice of heaven because the one I'm having fun at is just that FUN!
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