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Jul 2, 2019 22:18:15   #
jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
As expected by some here, the Nikon DSLR is slowly being replaced by their new Z Mirrorless system. Of course not completely....I'm sure more to come.

https://petapixel.com/2019/07/02/nikon-to-drop-1-3-of-its-dslr-lineup-in-shift-to-mirrorless-report/

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Jul 2, 2019 22:49:07   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
Great news but isn't the Z6 analogous to the D750 and the Z7 the D850 (aside from the dual card slots)?

They need to drop the mirrorless prices a bit to be more competitive with Sony if they hope to capture a larger market share.

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Jul 3, 2019 09:12:46   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I predicted a few years ago that eventually the majority of the cameras in use would be mirrorless. It came as a surprise to me the delay from Nikon and Canon in producing those cameras. It was not till they finally "discovered" that even professional photographers were using mirrorless bodies and lenses that they finally realized mirrorless could be the future of photography. In the meantime Panasonic and Olympus DID very well with their cameras and Sony became the full frame standard while Fuji kept on improving his mirrorless bodies.

By the time both companies, Nikon and Canon began to introduce mirrorless bodies to me it was kind of late. The market was already in the hands of their competitors. They knew they had to begin to produce mirrorless products with better technology and in the case of Nikon I do not really know how good their mirrorless cameras are because I have not used one. I use Olympus cameras and they are packed with technology aside from being excellent tools for photography. I dare to say that Olympus lenses are among the finest optics I have ever used and I have used strictly Nikon gear for more than 50 years.

My thoughts were in line when I predicted that mirrorless could become the future. Now Nikon, according to the rumors, will cut down production of some of the dSLR bodies in favor of new mirrorless cameras. Do not misunderstand me, dSLR are excellent photographic tools and I do not anticipate they will disappear from the market. For sure and as far as I know the AF system of dSLR cameras are superior to those incorporated in mirrorless bodies. That could change in the near future.

Now lets see what Canon has under its belt.

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Jul 3, 2019 14:31:24   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
jbk224 wrote:
As expected by some here, the Nikon DSLR is slowly being replaced by their new Z Mirrorless system. Of course not completely....I'm sure more to come.

https://petapixel.com/2019/07/02/nikon-to-drop-1-3-of-its-dslr-lineup-in-shift-to-mirrorless-report/


This article is presenting what was called a rumor as news. (AKA click bait) The original rumor listed cameras that will be replaced/upgraded. It never said that others would not be continued as is. They all very well might be discontinued however we shouldn't jump to conclusions based on speculations which in turned were based on a rumor.

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Jul 4, 2019 02:13:41   #
zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
 
This is what the slow death of the DSLR looks like, as many here have predicted.

What surprised me is that they are canceling three of the four APS-C camera lines, including both entry-level DSLRs (D3xxx and D5xxx). This means that they are steering their entire entry-level segment towards mirrorless while still offering more advanced DSLRs for existing customers with a stable full of lenses. I suspect that Nikon will come out with an inexpensive APS-C mirrorless camera soon to serve that segment, comparable to the the Sony A6xxx series.

I am a little more surprised that they plan to discontinue the D500, their flagship APS-C DSLR. The only remaining APS-C series will be the D7xxx.

Nikon simply cannot afford to maintain eight lines of DSLRs. In contrast to other large camera manufacturers, photography is their core business. This means that their financial means are more limited, and the need to develop viable mirrorless cameras quickly stresses them financially. Some in the industry doubt whether Nikon can survive as an independent company.

While these "rumors" have not been officially confirmed, few have questioned their accuracy.

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Jul 4, 2019 08:45:05   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
zug55 wrote:
This is what the slow death of the DSLR looks like, as many here have predicted.

What surprised me is that they are canceling three of the four APS-C camera lines, including both entry-level DSLRs (D3xxx and D5xxx). This means that they are steering their entire entry-level segment towards mirrorless while still offering more advanced DSLRs for existing customers with a stable full of lenses. I suspect that Nikon will come out with an inexpensive APS-C mirrorless camera soon to serve that segment, comparable to the the Sony A6xxx series.

I am a little more surprised that they plan to discontinue the D500, their flagship APS-C DSLR. The only remaining APS-C series will be the D7xxx.

Nikon simply cannot afford to maintain eight lines of DSLRs. In contrast to other large camera manufacturers, photography is their core business. This means that their financial means are more limited, and the need to develop viable mirrorless cameras quickly stresses them financially. Some in the industry doubt whether Nikon can survive as an independent company.

While these "rumors" have not been officially confirmed, few have questioned their accuracy.
This is what the slow death of the DSLR looks like... (show quote)


Where does it say those lines will be discontinued? while it's very possible some or all will be, the rumor only says they won't be replaced. Rumor based speculating is a waste of time. It can also be a disservice to end users.

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Jul 4, 2019 09:20:26   #
zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
 
Rich1939 wrote:
Where does it say those lines will be discontinued?


That is a bit of semantics. Technically, there won't be successor models to all APS-C lines except for the D7xxx. You will be able to buy the old models for a bit, but ultimately they won't be produced anymore. They will slowly disappear from the market. Who buys a camera that is five years old these days?

I see this as a real service to end users. These "rumor" sites are usually well-informed, and often company insiders plant the information. I think that it is useful for people who are about to invest into a camera system to know which way the market is going. I think that this serves as a reminder not to invest in DSLR systems anymore unless one already has good lenses for a DSLR system.

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Jul 4, 2019 09:32:43   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
zug55 wrote:
That is a bit of semantics. Technically, there won't be successor models to all APS-C lines except for the D7xxx. You will be able to buy the old models for a bit, but ultimately they won't be produced anymore. They will slowly disappear from the market. Who buys a camera that is five years old these days?

I see this as a real service to end users. These "rumor" sites are usually well-informed, and often company insiders plant the information. I think that it is useful for people who are about to invest into a camera system to know which way the market is going. I think that this serves as a reminder not to invest in DSLR systems anymore unless one already has good lenses for a DSLR system.
That is a bit of semantics. Technically, there won... (show quote)


I look in at Nikon Rumors regularly and he is often right, no argument from me about that. His post said that certain cameras will not be replaced and that is not saying they will be discontinued. Other cameras weren't mention. For instance, the D810 isn't mentioned as one that will be replaced but it has the only 36mp sensor in the FX line up. I don't believe Nikon will abandon that size. However the way Petapixel wrote their article 36MP is a goner.

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Jul 4, 2019 10:15:11   #
zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
 
Rich1939 wrote:
I look in at Nikon Rumors regularly and he is often right, no argument from me about that. His post said that certain cameras will not be replaced and that is not saying they will be discontinued. Other cameras weren't mention. For instance, the D810 isn't mentioned as one that will be replaced but it has the only 36mp sensor in the FX line up. I don't believe Nikon will abandon that size. However the way Petapixel wrote their article 36MP is a goner.


The 36mp D810 has been a goner since it was replaced by the D850 in Fall 2017. In most cases, when a successor model comes out the old one is no longer produced, although existing stock still is sold at a discounted price. You still can buy the D810 but I am not sure it still is produced. The Nikon Rumors post did not mention the D810 because is it is in the same line as the D850. It appears likely that Nikon will produce a D860[?] at some point, but the key question is how many resources Nikon still will invest in further developing the D850--which by all standards is a great camera.

Furthermore, the D750 has 24mp so I am sure that Nikon does not see the need to still have a 36mp camera in their lineup. The fate of the Df (16mp) apparently still is being considered.

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Jul 4, 2019 11:06:50   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Time will tell

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