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Jun 22, 2019 12:14:35   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
First, good shot. I too think the red color adds to the overall image


Just my opinion:
I am long retired from Environmental Engineering but somewhere back in a long unused, dusty corner of my mind is a memory of something called the Federal Clean Water Act that regulates wastewater and stormwater discharge. California, where I practiced, and many other States have their own clean water acts which are much more severe than the Federal Act. Surface runoff from animal feed lots, parking lots, and city streets among others locations are regulated.

I don't want to get into an argument but some treatment is necessary before discharge. I would never happy sitting on my surf board surrounded used condoms, syringes with needles, and other nasty stuff.

F.Y.I Here is a link to the New Jersey Stormwater Discharge regulations: https://www.nj.gov/dep/stormwater/sw_rule_faqs.htm#9_0
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Yes, most places have some kind of retention/percolation area for run-off for NEW development.
I'll bet the majority of places didn't retrofit everything.

I know of one lake in Florida where the road run-off goes directly into the lake.
I also know of a retention pond in Florida that gained/retained so much water that it is now a named lake.
Places that drained run-off in the early 20th century, most likely have not been updated to send run-off to a percolation area first.

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Jun 22, 2019 12:50:34   #
NikonGal Loc: Central Oregon
 
Enjoyed your images Bill. You're right, the colors are very striking. Wonderful sky too. Bev

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Jun 22, 2019 15:19:05   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
yssirk123 wrote:
I liked the contrast of the reddish pipe against the sand and water. There is some controversy about these drains, as they bypass sewage treatment plants and empty the untreated water directly into the ocean.

Looks best in download view.



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Jun 22, 2019 15:48:41   #
srfmhg Loc: Marin County, CA
 
Great shot and processing Bill.

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Jun 22, 2019 16:55:34   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
yssirk123 wrote:
I liked the contrast of the reddish pipe against the sand and water. There is some controversy about these drains, as they bypass sewage treatment plants and empty the untreated water directly into the ocean.

Looks best in download view.


Nice composition, and I love the sky. >Alan

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Jun 22, 2019 18:00:26   #
timepass Loc: Yardley,PA
 
Great shot,what a shame they pollute the ocean.

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Jun 22, 2019 18:05:12   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
GES wrote:
It is a nice shot if you like drainpipes. However, I am much more concerned about what this drainage is doing to the marine flora and fauna. There should be a lot of controversy; in fact, this should be illegal.


I'm not sure if I particularly like drainpipes, although I did think that the color contrasted nicely with the water and sand. There's a lot of nasty stuff going right into the ocean - and its not affecting just the flora and fauna. The pipe empties directly where people swim.

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Jun 22, 2019 18:06:18   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
camerapapi wrote:
I like this image. It has excellent visual design and symmetry. Good balance also.
The sky is interesting and if you could make those bright clouds slightly brighter I believe it could be a great contribution to enhance it and attract the eye more toward the beautiful image.
Just a thought.


Thanks camerapapi - glad you liked it, and I appreciate the suggestion. I'll give it a try and see how it looks.

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Jun 22, 2019 18:07:40   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Longshadow wrote:
Where should they put storm water run-off? Or never drain it and let it follow the lay of the land?, which would probably take it to creeks and streams and clog MANY roads.....


Not any easy answers here. Federal funds protect many parts of this great country - perhaps that might be part of the solution.

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Jun 22, 2019 18:10:25   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
JCam wrote:
Jerry, the post said storm water, not sewage, I know they get mixed on occasion, but do we want to pay the chat to process relatively clear rain?


If so what should we do about the thousands of tons off "stuff" all the whales and other ocean critters dump every day?? That ain't treated either.


Thanks for looking and commenting JCam.

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Jun 22, 2019 18:12:35   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
vicksart wrote:
Nice shot Bill. This would serve as a good visual if you were trying to explain why it's a bad idea to dump chemicals down the drain rather than taking them to a hazardous waste disposal facility.


Glad you liked it Vicki. I wish I could say that was the intent, but when I shot the image I didn't know what the pipes were for. Because I was curious, I looked into it and found out why they were there.

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Jun 22, 2019 18:14:10   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
rmalarz wrote:
Interesting photo, as well as concept.

I can see where all the crap* on the roads and other places washes directly into ocean water.
--Bob

crap* - motor oil, rubber remnants, etc.


Thanks Bob - glad you liked it. And you're right, its not just rainwater. Fertilizer, animal fecal matter, and road debris residue is there as well.

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Jun 22, 2019 18:15:21   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Longshadow wrote:
+ coolant from car crashes....


Longshadow - plenty of crashes in NJ. Too many cars, not enough road, and everyone is in a hurry.

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Jun 22, 2019 18:19:03   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
First, good shot. I too think the red color adds to the overall image


Just my opinion:
I am long retired from Environmental Engineering but somewhere back in a long unused, dusty corner of my mind is a memory of something called the Federal Clean Water Act that regulates wastewater and stormwater discharge. California, where I practiced, and many other States have their own clean water acts which are much more severe than the Federal Act. Surface runoff from animal feed lots, parking lots, and city streets among others locations are regulated.

I don't want to get into an argument but some treatment is necessary before discharge. I would never happy sitting on my surf board surrounded used condoms, syringes with needles, and other nasty stuff.

F.Y.I Here is a link to the New Jersey Stormwater Discharge regulations: https://www.nj.gov/dep/stormwater/sw_rule_faqs.htm#9_0
First, good shot. I too think the red color adds t... (show quote)


Thanks Curmudgeon - glad you liked it and thanks again for taking the time to look up the regulations.

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Jun 22, 2019 18:20:10   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
NikonGal wrote:
Enjoyed your images Bill. You're right, the colors are very striking. Wonderful sky too. Bev


Thanks Bev - I appreciate your comments. It was a very nice day with a great sky.

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