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Jun 22, 2019 09:55:09   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
J-SPEIGHT wrote:
Beautiful image Bill.


Glad you liked it Jack.

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Jun 22, 2019 09:55:54   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Thanks merry - more and more I like having red in some part of the image.

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Jun 22, 2019 09:57:21   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
fourg1b2006 wrote:
Striking looking image.


Thanks Marty - I'm glad you liked it.

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Jun 22, 2019 09:59:37   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Longshadow wrote:
Can you explain the phrase "storm overloaded sewage"?
Is that when the treatment plant is flooded by rain and sewage overflows containment?
I can't imagine they would be sending storm run-off into the sanitary sewer system.

I'm not knowledgeable of the ramifications of semi treated sewage. Maybe dumped far enough out it dissipates and does not present a problem?


Longshadow - I think towns pipe the excess water into the ocean when their treatment plants can't keep up with the amount of rainfall.

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Jun 22, 2019 10:05:47   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Framerman wrote:
I like the shot as well, but it also brings in to focus what we are doing to our ocean and wild life. Do people really think storm drain water is clean? Everything under the sun gets clogged in them. Plus all the oil runoff. I am not a tree huger but common thought should say this is wrong. It reminds me of The Bronx before I 95 was built, sewage pipes running out to our waterways. Someone thought that was a good idea.
yssirk123 I did not have any intention of saying anything bad about your photo, your shot is great just I saw something else within it. Do not let this stop you from posting fine works from what you see.
I like the shot as well, but it also brings in to ... (show quote)


Thanks Framerman - glad you liked it. I wasn't sure exactly what the large pipes were being used for, so I looked into it a bit. I'm chagrined to say that prior to that I had no idea these pipes were dumping some pretty nasty water into the same area we all swim in. The towns themselves are somewhat caught between a rock and a hard place as to how they can deal with the problem.

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Jun 22, 2019 10:07:47   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Bunko.T wrote:
Surely only storm water, not sewage??


I think its just the storm water, although even that can get pretty nasty before it makes its way into the ocean.

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Jun 22, 2019 10:29:40   #
GES
 
It is a nice shot if you like drainpipes. However, I am much more concerned about what this drainage is doing to the marine flora and fauna. There should be a lot of controversy; in fact, this should be illegal.

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Jun 22, 2019 10:47:04   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I like this image. It has excellent visual design and symmetry. Good balance also.
The sky is interesting and if you could make those bright clouds slightly brighter I believe it could be a great contribution to enhance it and attract the eye more toward the beautiful image.
Just a thought.

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Jun 22, 2019 10:50:13   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
GES wrote:
It is a nice shot if you like drainpipes. However, I am much more concerned about what this drainage is doing to the marine flora and fauna. There should be a lot of controversy; in fact, this should be illegal.

Where should they put storm water run-off? Or never drain it and let it follow the lay of the land?, which would probably take it to creeks and streams and clog MANY roads.....

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Jun 22, 2019 11:00:51   #
JCam Loc: MD Eastern Shore
 
Jerry, the post said storm water, not sewage, I know they get mixed on occasion, but do we want to pay the chat to process relatively clear rain?


If so what should we do about the thousands of tons off "stuff" all the whales and other ocean critters dump every day?? That ain't treated either.

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Jun 22, 2019 11:08:41   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JCam wrote:
Jerry, the post said storm water, not sewage, I know they get mixed on occasion, but do we want to pay the chat to process relatively clear rain?


If so what should we do about the thousands of tons off "stuff" all the whales and other ocean critters dump every day?? That ain't treated either.


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Jun 22, 2019 11:47:02   #
vicksart Loc: Novato, CA -earthquake country
 
Nice shot Bill. This would serve as a good visual if you were trying to explain why it's a bad idea to dump chemicals down the drain rather than taking them to a hazardous waste disposal facility.

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Jun 22, 2019 11:51:11   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Interesting photo, as well as concept.

I can see where all the crap* on the roads and other places washes directly into ocean water.
--Bob

crap* - motor oil, rubber remnants, etc.

yssirk123 wrote:
I liked the contrast of the reddish pipe against the sand and water. There is some controversy about these drains, as they bypass sewage treatment plants and empty the untreated water directly into the ocean.

Looks best in download view.

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Jun 22, 2019 11:59:17   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
rmalarz wrote:
Interesting photo, as well as concept.

I can see where all the crap* on the roads and other places washes directly into ocean water.
--Bob

crap* - motor oil, rubber remnants, etc.


+ coolant from car crashes....

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Jun 22, 2019 12:04:01   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
Longshadow wrote:
I don't know of any location that treats surface run-off.


First, good shot. I too think the red color adds to the overall image


Just my opinion:
I am long retired from Environmental Engineering but somewhere back in a long unused, dusty corner of my mind is a memory of something called the Federal Clean Water Act that regulates wastewater and stormwater discharge. California, where I practiced, and many other States have their own clean water acts which are much more severe than the Federal Act. Surface runoff from animal feed lots, parking lots, and city streets among others locations are regulated.

I don't want to get into an argument but some treatment is necessary before discharge. I would never happy sitting on my surf board surrounded used condoms, syringes with needles, and other nasty stuff.

F.Y.I Here is a link to the New Jersey Stormwater Discharge regulations: https://www.nj.gov/dep/stormwater/sw_rule_faqs.htm#9_0

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